Quixtar BLOG Discussion

Some clarification:

Paul's kids were with Debbie. Leslie's kids were not with her husband Rex, they were with Paul from all I heard. xkulaydrnkr did not name names about Debbie but I will. I have heard from many sources that she was doing the dirties with an Emerald's son in Kent Allen's group by the name of Ann Eatmon. Her son Blake was reported to be the other half. Kent stayed with Paul and Ann left and went with Winter's.

What I find funny/interesting about this whole thing about BWW is this:

First, Bill mentioned from stage for 20 years that if he ever caught anyone in his group fooling around, he would kick them out no matter their pin size. Not only was his biggest pin, Paul Miller, doing it, his wedding had a 2 page spread in a recent lamplighter. How hypocritical.

Second, Bill has said for years that Rex Renfrow wwould take over the organization if anything ever happened to him. what is up with that? Is Paul Miller, the marriage wrecker (for 2 marriages), now next in line?

Third, most of Bill's big legs are pulling out. Can this all be tool money or did they get some shred of morality in what went on with Bill and Paul? Groups within groups are splintering. Rex left but Angelo didn't?

the house of cards is starting to fall.

Wow, so they are all having functions together now. Is it because the groups are smaller now? While I was in, Gala had his own Spring Leadership and Dream Night. In fact, Kumar was large enough to have his own Family Reunion (Summer Conference).

And are you sure that Crowe was part of the function, because he is said to have broken away from Britt and he's no longer on the BWW website.

Cool,
Great response. You are right on target. Thanks for clarifying his name, it is Rex I mistyped Rob. BTW, did you know that the weekend Betty Jo passed away, Bill spoke at the Renfrow team function even though he was not invited by Rex, he went to Angelo and Dave Taylor and Angelo had him come anyway. We were told by Rubies in their organization that during the entire weekend, Bill Britt did not even mention Rex or send condolences for Betty Jo's passing. When we attended our last Stay Platinum (I mean BWW GO Diamond) seminar in Atlanta, the entire weekend was spent talking about unity and bashing the Winters team and all other "traitors" who were not loyal to Bill and Paul. They even told several IBOs they had to leave and attempted to escort them out if they thought that they had any affiliation with Larry's group. At one point Bill had the Indian diamonds come on stage and he made outragous income claims and some of the diamonds actually tried to correct him on stage about the fact that they were not making a million per year. It was very interesting and the last function we attended with BWW.

Was this at a regular function or Go Diamond? If it was at a function, I think I was there too. I was surprised that even Kumar didn't make up to $1mill a year after all the talk of creating more millionaires than anyone but microsoft.

Rara said "Was this at a regular function or Go Diamond? If it was at a function, I think I was there too. I was surprised that even Kumar didn't make up to $1mill a year after all the talk of creating more millionaires than anyone but microsoft."

XK< This was stated at BWW Go Diamond Weekend in 2006. It was a very ackward moment for the Indian diamonds.

Cool said "Third, most of Bill's big legs are pulling out. Can this all be tool money or did they get some shred of morality in what went on with Bill and Paul? Groups within groups are splintering. Rex left but Angelo didn't."

XK< Cool, I just wanted to add these comments that just came to mind. To answer your question, IMHBAO, it is a combination of both a tool money issue as well as a moral issue. My husband and I have been to Paul Miller's home - Mistletoe - several times as well as been to Larry Winter's Farm so we can substantiate what we say. The tool money issue is that when Bill went into so called retirement several years ago, there were alot of issues with Rex Renfrow taking the lead with BWW. Paul had gotten caught with his affair and alot of Winters leaders were angry about it. In a platinum meeting, Joe Markewicz went off on Paul for his infidelity and the fact that it would cause problems for the already tainted image of BWW. Joe had earned the right "so to speak" to have his own functions and Bill was not having that. Not to mention the separation and restraining order Peggy filed against Bill during this same time. We have been told by several higher pins in the business that the major issue about Paul and Bill was the attempted coverup of the illicit relationship.
From our understanding, Rex, Leslie's husband at the time, found out that the children he had been raising were not biologically his. He threatened to go public and in return, Paul promised him $2 million to quietly divorce Leslie. Unfortunately, Paul only had $1 million in cash to give Rex and also gave him his new home he had just bought in Plantation, FL (right near Bill's Florida home). Here is where the anger came from. We were always told that Bill didnt make any money off the tools and that AMI was funded entirely by Bill. That there was a secret fund that would so called take care of Emeralds for life. Anyway, I digress.
The other $1 million was the major issue. We had been told that Bill took the money out of the POT money from AMI to pay off the husband for Paul. That was the straw that broke the camels back. During this time, Bill came back and started threatening numerous Diamonds that he would cut off their tool money if they did not submit to his orders. Plus, I believe that he needed the money due to his illegal scam investments, his frozen assets (Peggy's restraining order), and the payoff to Rex. He also didnt want to lose the function income with the multiple big pins breaking away. He started cutting diamonds off from the system, just like that. This is partially what happened to Larry Winters (it happened around the time they were going to launch LTD). We were at the official launch meeting for eagles and above when Larry talked emotionally about the decision to start LTD.
BTW, Paul Miller was not happy when Bill cutoff Larry's tools because that represented a loss of over $1 million of tool money per year not to mention function money. Also, Paul's home at Mistletoe is currently on the market because he has to sell it. He bought a condo next door from Rocky Covington's condo in Myrtle Beach and trust me the inside of those condos are not that impressive and dont reflect all this wealth they claim.

Well,I haven't seen Rob & Nerland Robinson around for the 4 Functions,so it leads me to think something is up.

Anyone have any info on this ?

Just to add to XK's previous comments... Does anyone know that Bill Britt gifted Kanti Gala (of Kanti and Lata pair) with a limousine. Now, looking back at it, it could have been a bribe to stay with BWW. Undoubtedly, after Miller and Winters, GALA is the biggest thing Bill Britt has got. GALAs leaving BWW would be disastrous.

JayB,
You're on target. Several emeralds and diamonds have told us that fact, that Bill is buying off i.e. bribing people to stay with BWW. It is a necessary evil for a lot of the pins to stay with him because they are not currently qualified and need the system money, the prestige, and the deification that they are no longer receiving anywhere else including from Quixtar. We know the Gala's and it is purely a business (financial) decision for them to stay. I believe, from what we have been told, that they are only staying until they have the means to produce their own tools and function system. Wont elaborate on the source just letting you know as always you are on target.

Yes I agree with you. What would be better for money hungry Kanti Gala than be self crowned monarch of his tool empire!!! 100 bucks say that they are out as soon as they find someone to do tools for them. I would love to walk up to Kanti and ask him what the hell happened to all that UNITY and LOVE he had for Bill Britt? I also believe that the only reason Nardone team is sticking around is that they don't have very many pins breaking at the moment.

Hey Young,
I wouldnt be able to help give you information on that as we changed to LTD in early 2006 until we stopped actively building the business in early 2007. I know that Rob made major waves by stating publically that he was "going to retire from building the business at 40. He wasnt gonna 60 yrs old yellin' oh oh freedom from a BWW stage." That really pissed off Rocky, Paul, and some of the other old farts that are just barely hanging on to life. My husband is still friends with a Ruby in NYC, who was in our wedding, with BWW so I'll see if he can ask if he knows anything.

I have not been on on awhile but as I read this post it is amazing how these people were my heroes and icons for about 10 years. One by one they fall and I was just thinking if I was still in the business I would be going through a major depression right now and I wonder how many loyal kool aid drinkers are suffering becasue of these actions.

It is sad how people hang on. I ran into an open meeting in the Merris group a couple of weeks ago and I can remember coming down from Killeen to the "Big Meeting" in Austin and having it be 70 to 100 people with guests numbering in the 30's or 40's. This meeting, being run by 12 year Emerald Robert Pena(Merris) was smaller then the open meetings we were having in Killeen. I brought up the Bill/Paul subject and I was immediatly talked over and the subject was quickly changed.

Sad

Niske

Yeah I remember him saying that... FED 2004 I think. That was my last FED. I was kidnapped and dragged to the FED The GALAS and CROWES broke 11 Diamonds all together. Most of them are out of qualification now. When I saw 11 diamonds, I smelled something fishy.

Well, we can hope right?

I'm so hooked on finding out exactly what happened to Rob Robinson,because I stopped seeing him at open meetings,and functions and after a couple months not seeing him..his sponsor went Ruby.