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February 22, 2008
Fred Harteis Resigns from Quixtar.
Over on Fred Harteis's blog Fred has posted his explanation of his resignation from Quixtar. I found this to be the most interesting part of his post:
"As an IBO I have entered into many discussions concerning issues I have had with Quixtar i.e.: product pricing, the IBO compensation plan, negative on the web."
Negative on the web? Now I know Fred didn't specify exactly, but most of the negative on the web is due to abusive practices by motivational organization leaders. I wonder how many other leaders complained about the negative on the web with Quixtar. Were they looking to Quixtar to do something about it? Isn't that kind of like expecting someone to clean up a mess that you made yourself? The way I see it if the IBO leaders showed more concern for their downline making a profit rather then buying tools and getting tickets to the next great conference there would not have been a mess to clean up in the first place. At any rate I wish Fred well in whatever his next venture is going to be.
It begs me to ask once again. Why would a double diamond resign? Wouldn't he simply "walk away" and collect residual income which can be willed to generations to come while he's walking the beaches of the world. Fred is a double diamond so surely there would be no benefit in "resigning"?
Wasn't he in Eric's book "Merchant of Deception"?
He probably is experiencing the same negative growth Don Wilson was: from 60,000 attendees at weekend seminars to 10,000.
The conferences were primarily to retain Ibos. Certainly the profit margins and bonuses were not enough to do that. And the prices? No one stayed "in" because the prices were a bargain.
I wish him good luck, he was a great speaker, and I liked many of his tapes.
If this doesn't prove that the bidnez was really about functions, books, cd's, etc. (especially after Fred broke off from Dexter and formed InterBiz, his tools company)and NOT moving products, I don't know what will.
Maybe some "passionate" IBO could explain the business logic of having access to so many products and services (even if they were overpriced) and throwing that away to carry ONE product of overpriced fruit juice.
It would be like Wal-Mart clearing the shelves and just selling Coca-Cola.
He probably resigned so he could make more money in another MLM. The rumor was he could not sell his own tools anymore in Q. That is why he started peddling another group's tools.
Don't forget that Q is making many of the top level bonuses payable at Q's option. So if the Corp. doesn't like you anymore then can just stop paying you your "residuals". It is entirely up to them. Don't forget, Q can change the rules and you have no choice in the matter and you will not be compensated for rules that reduce the value of your business.
Yes, Fred Harteis was Eric Schiebler's Diamond. I do remember Eric being promoted as a "on-fire" Emerald from Harteis' stage and hearing Eric speak a few times.
How do you convince anyone to buy a bottle of juice for $45?
Maybe he was trying to address the negative issues on the web so that it could be stopped by making changes. Yeah, true, they made the mess to start with. Hope he is happy in new endeavors, they have to be better than the crappy Quixtar/AMO setup.
What the heck is this. I can not believe a Double Diamond would Quit! He was an IBOA board member. So what does he know that others do not! I heard there were other IBOA memebers doing the same. It is not just him. These guys are the top in the Amway biz. Something Stinks bad!
I guess there must not be residual income, perhaps even at the double diamond level. Otherwise he would walk away anot not resign?
Hmmm? If there is any truth to Eric Scheibler's book, maybe Mr. Harteis is actually more concerned about possible scrutiny by prosecutorial tax evasion inquiries. Obviously, he is a major kingpin poster child and represents just the tip of the ice berg in this scandal ridden tool pyramid scam biz.
Fred needs to face up to the wrong he did to Eric and his family. I use to think Fred was a good guy till I read Eric's book. Now I hate to think about these kind of people getting into a new business opportunity and bringing their baggage with them!! When is Fred going to fess up??
What's more amazing is the IBOs in his group willing to follow him to a new MLM.
Please check the fact that Eric admitted to lying about a number of things durint the court hearing...
Fred Harteis is NOT a nice guy. It was ALWAYS about the tools - the money was never from Amway. He is a number one con artist.
Is Fred back in Quixtar or did he stay in Mona Vie?
Fred is like many others. After making his money in tools, he invested it into the traditional markets -- the "I" Quadrant.
Fred has a lot of gas exploration and land development investments. All the things they critize when you join are what they do to make money (when they are not collecting speaking and 'tool' fees.)
I witnessed Fred do a house plan once and it was honestly the worst plan I have ever seen. I could not believe it after hearing so much about him. It was awful.