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March 1, 2007
Is Quixtar your passion?
By Truth in Quixtar
I am almost finished reading "Chicken Soup for the Entrepreneur's Soul". It's a good book full of great stories. In some of the stories at the beginning there is a quote used that relates to the story. Two of the quotes that have caught my eye were by David Frost and Oprah Winfrey. They are as follows:
"Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and believe in, and it will come naturally." -David Frost
"If you do work that you love, and the work fulfills you, the rest will come." -Oprah Winfrey
These quotes made me take pause and reflect when it comes to the Quixtar business. I can't say I really had the same passion for Quixtar as I do with my side businesss, and I wonder how many IBOs really have a passion for Quixtar. Do you think one can even be successful in Quixtar if being an IBO is not something they are passionate about?
Now I could be wrong here, but it has been my observation that many IBOs spend so much time focused on the success that they want to have, that success is the only thing they really have a passion for. So if you don't have a passion for building a Quixtar business, yet you want to be successful, wouldn't it make sense to look in the mirror, figure out what you are passionate about and go that direction, instead of wasting your time with something you don't really have a passion for?
Comments
Wow! This is a very good and pointed entry.
I can say that I have a passion for being an entertainer.
And I'm a Quixtar IBO, but I do not have a "passion" for being a IBO. I have a passion for aspects of the Quixtar business as it relates to me being "in business".
This entry should make IBOs and ex-IBOs figure out their true passion as it relates to Quixtar, and the IBOs may even excel further as they determine their passion in the Q biz.
Dave
For many people, their passion is something they cannot pursue easily because of a lack of time and money. That's where Quixtar can help - it's not the passion, it's a way (or should be a way) to get rid of the problems that are stopping you pursuing your passion. This is what "the dream" is all about. It's our job to help people work out what they really want in life - what their passion is. If building an Amway/Quixtar business can help them achieve those goals, then go for it. But if it can't help - then for god sake, life's too short, go find someway that *can*.
As much as I dislike Oprah, I love her quote. I think it speaks volumes. I don't make a ton of money, but I love what I do, and so I feel as though I'm living my dream. Selling Quixtar would get in the way of what I'm doing and loving now. Consequently, it's not for me, but other people get into selling, so that's ok, I guess.
i agree with inquiringmind. i too finally have found the career of my dreams and would not want to do anything else. when i was in Q* i felt i was fueling someone elses dream more than my own. and just so we are clear that was my PERSONAL experience with the business. i in no way am saying that is typical of any one else that was or is still in the business IBOfightback.
I was in Amyway and Quixtar, A little about me. My wife went to school with the Yeager Kids, and I worked For InterNet on Hwy 160 here in Charlotte, NC befor they moved out to fortmill SC. When I was working for internet I saw many people who was successfull, but allso many who fail at the business. Most of the ones who fail was because they spent too much money on tools and promoting the business. After knowing the Sons of the Yeagers, I can said that they do not try to mislead people, however the upper pens of the network, tend to miss use the smaller pins to get kick backs of upto 25% from Internet. Quixtar know this but will to do anything about it, due to the fact that the Yeager downlines makes up to 95% of North American business and over 80% of the business outside of the US. So what one to do? (A) Don't do the business or (B)
Do the business but don't spend more then 10 to 20% on tools and building Items. The ones who do this will make money at the business, they just have to have the backbone not to let there upline pressure them or there down line into ordering more than any tools that they don't need due to there size of the business. In a reg. non networking business you would set aside about 20 to 25% to use for promoting your business, that just what you got to do here. You must set up a business plan and work it and teach your downline to do the same, and don't worry about your upline, who want's to milk you, however you will find that most uplines will understand this, they don't want to kill the goose that is laying the golden egg. PS; If people in the business starts doing this there won't be a problem with the system and the success rate will go up.
About "doing what you love" and the money will follow.....as much as I LOVE Oprah, I don't know if I necessarily agree.
Here's what I mean: I LOVE to sing, but can't. I LOVE to read, play piano, care for animals, rollarblade, do aerobics, dance, etc. but how does one make a career out of those things? Especially if I am "over the hill" (over 40) ;-) with younger kids. I am quite limited at this point (unless I'm totally selfish).
I went to school for marketing & sales & have spent the better part of my life gaining experience, training & education in those areas. I did fairly well.
For the past 4 years, I have been gaining experience, training & education in this particular industry. I actually, truly enjoy the sales & marketing aspects of the Quixtar franchise opportunity. I do get passionate about sales (only when I believe in the product, service or concept!). I get passionate about helping people. I do believe deep down in my heart, that the Quixtar opportuity is a vehicle that could help someone with their financial (or even personal) situation.
IBOFIGHTBACK, I thought you put it quite eloquently, when you stated that the Quixtar opportunity "can" be a passion. However, for most people, it's a vehicle that will provide a way to earn extra money in order to be able to more freely pursue their passion(s).
Charles, thank you for the insight. I'm sure it is much appreciated by all. I agree with you that tool expenditure has to be reasonable. You cannot go out & purchase six sets of Spring Leadership tickets in the "belief & hope" that six couples will join you at that function. In my humble opinion, that would be just plain stupid. We were advised to do that once. We did not follow that (stupid) advice. We were not in any kind of financial position to do so.
One must use common sense in this business as with any other business venture one may pursue in life.
I don't see how Q* is (or can be) a way to get rid of the problems that are stopping one from pursuing one's passion. In the short term, it is highly unlikely that Q* will free up one's time or money. It will do the exact opposite. In the long term, even if we assume that it creates so much of spare time and money, by the time that happens, the initial goal/passion would have been replaced by a constant craving for money/XS/motivation/edification(!).
When someone has a strong enough passion and are smart and lucky (etc.), they may achieve it (or may be not). There is no one-size-fits-all way for achieving one's goal. Certainly not Q*
But if it can't help - then for god sake, life's too short, go find someway that *can*.
Okay....? I found some thing that I can, and doing it. Free lancing aside from my job. Doing great. You wanna say just don't criticize Quixtar? Actually that helped me think every think again what I heard in Quixtar. e.g. in plan they ask what if you have all the time and money, what would u do? Own mentions, have planes etc. Then they come to what ppl do to make money, i.e. Job / Self Employed / Business. And tell ppl these job is not the right vehicle and to do business you need a big capital. Basically only thing left is Quixtar.
I kept thinking about it after I quit and various critics made excellent points about it. I found you can do a LOT other things if you don't have a big capital. Jobs have various level of control and are not as bad as 'slavery'. And you 'can' start a business without investment of millions. I started doing IT free lancing, and making what I wanted to make in Quixtar, without changing my field and doing something that's so opposite to my personality.
I see some of you saying that your passion is not always for Quixtar, but maybe certain aspects of it. I think if you have a passion for any part of it that is great and you should do it.
However, I remember from stage Diamonds saying if you dread contacting, or dread showing plans, to do it anyway so one day you won't have to do it so much. I say if you don't like contacting or showing a plan, you ought to find something else. If you dread going out and showing another plan my guess is your passion is somewhere else.
"I say if you don't like contacting or showing a plan, you ought to find something else."
I say if you understand that success is built on inconvenience as opposed to convenience you would not make such statement. You like to be convenient and this business is not built that way. If you don't want to say "hi" to people, if you don't want to accept rejection on their part that is a sign of poor self-image. Personally, I don't care who thinks what about me; if I want, I will tell it straight in your face buddy. So, yes, inconvenience is a necessity to build oneself up. You just gave up on yourself. You are not a winner, you just walk around scared of looking people in the eye. I used to be like that but struggled against myself to look into someone's eyes and say "hi" or "bye". If I could do it, why couldn't you?
"If you dread going out and showing another plan my guess is your passion is somewhere else."
If you dread going out and showing another plan, stop for a moment and fight that negative self talk with the "yes, I can do this" decision and you will do it. Action cures fear. Inaction breeds fear and laziness. What's your fear?
I recently got this story in my e-mail, and I think it is very applicable to what Drew is saying about having a passion in the business:
A pastor at a church starts his sermon with a very large glass jar. He fills it full of golf balls and asks his congregation if the jar is now full. They all respond with a resounding “yes!”
He then takes out a cup full of marbles and dumps them in the jar. He shakes the jar as he is pouring and all the marbles fill the empty spaces. He asks again; “is the jar full now?” The church again responds “yes.”
He then takes out a bag of sand and pours it in the jar. The sand fills up the last remaining open spaces and the pastor says: “Now the jar is full.”
He tells the parishioners this:
“The jar represents your life, and the golf balls represent the things that are most important to you like God, family, hobbies, etc. The marbles represent less important things or things that you are obligated to do like work, finances, school, lawn mowing, paying bills, etc. The sand represents everything you do that doesn’t matter, or things you spend time doing that are worthless and take time away from things that are important.”
“You can fill the jar full of golf balls and still have plenty of room for all the other stuff, but it doesn’t work the other way around. If you fill the jar full of sand, you might be able to squeeze in a few marbles, but no golf balls will fit at all. The point is, don’t fill your life with things that are not important.”
Now I think about the time I spent in the business. One by one I was removing golf balls in order to replace them with sand. Sand being Monday night opens, tools, functions, church, etc. I did all that with the promise that as soon as I went diamond I could poor the sand out of the jar and replace it with nothing but golf balls. We have all heard the saying “skip the birthday party this year, and give XX a great party next year!” Well, that is crap. No amount of sand is worth skipping time with family. No amount of sand is worth a decade to wait for having kids (I have two now!!!). No amount of sand is worth leaving the kids at home to draw circles on the whiteboard.
No one is passionate about doing the business. They are passionate about the possibility of the business working for them and what that could mean at the end. When they find out how many golf balls they have to remove and how long they keep them out of their jar they decide it’s not worth sacrificing so much for. Those are the same people IBO’s call losers. All I have to say to those IBO’s is: you can keep your jar of sand.
Anon makes an excellent point - many times one's passion is not oriented to a career or vocation.
I.E. - I have a passion being a drummer, but I couldn't stand the whole playing in bars scene - just jamming w/ friends or playing in my basement with the headphones on satisfies my passion w/o being a "professional".
If there was a career for College Football Game Attendee I would sign up in a second.
Almost all people I saw in my 4 years in the biz caught up in desires and wants, but not "passion" for the business. (myself included)
Anon,
"If you do work that you love, and the work fulfills you, the rest will come." -Oprah Winfrey
If you look closely, you'll notice that Oprah didn't say that "money will follow," she said. "the work fulfills you." When finding work that you love, it isn't so much work as it is using your gifts and talents to their full degree. THAT is what can be fulfilling.
If given the chance to make tons of money doing a job I hated, or earning a modest income doing work I loved, I choose less income and the more loved job.
I am very upset with all the ignorant people putting down this great business. All you broke people have a real bad case of "stinkin thinking". YOU ALL ARE WORKING J-O-Bs and you know what that stands for don't you. My prospect (whiner) came to this site a couple of days ago and decided not to pursue this great opportunity. Do you take great joy in stealing people's dream. Losers
My passion is to make money without with the least amount of work. But in no sense does that equal to quixtar being my passion.
For my prospects, they do get excited, but i always (nicely) crash them back down to reality.
Christian Anton: If you dread going out and showing another plan, stop for a moment and fight that negative self talk with the "yes, I can do this" decision and you will do it. Action cures fear. Inaction breeds fear and laziness. What's your fear?
dmm: It's not always about fear and action, it's about results. Yes I never was an IBO, but did do selling, and man, did I suck at it. Sure I had the same fear as everyone else, and overcame it with action, but I still sucked at it. Eventually, I decided my talents were best used elsewhere, and changed careers.
Some people are just not cut out to own their own business. Others are not cut out to be salespeople. This whole ideal that anyone can be a success in Quixtar is silly, in my opinion. It requires a lot of selling, a lot of interaction with people, and a lot of time and effort most people don't enjoy doing. It's nowhere close to their passion, and often times, like in my case, the exact opposite.
And Mike Anderson, must be a lot of broke losers out there, since 67% of all IBO's quit every year. Since the launch of Quixtar, that is over 1.5 million losers, and how many diamonds? Less than 100?
"I say if you understand that success is built on inconvenience as opposed to convenience you would not make such statement. You like to be convenient and this business is not built that way."
First of all Cristian you don't know anything about me. You were too scared to step up and have a discussion remember? I don't mind being inconvenienced, it happens all the time in my side business. The difference is my side business is worth it.
"If you don't want to say "hi" to people, if you don't want to accept rejection on their part that is a sign of poor self-image."
Actually I enjoyed contacting, and was pretty darn good at it. Yet another fact you would have known if you could have mustered enough courage to have a discussion. But thanks for that bit of tapespeak. I haven't heard that one in a while.
"Personally, I don't care who thinks what about me; if I want, I will tell it straight in your face buddy."
Ohhh, tough talk from the keyboard. Yet, when you were challenged you were very quick to back down.
"You just gave up on yourself. You are not a winner, you just walk around scared of looking people in the eye. I used to be like that but struggled against myself to look into someone's eyes and say "hi" or "bye". If I could do it, why couldn't you?"
So I am not a winner because I am not in Quixtar? Is that all one has to do to be a winner? I am not a winner even though after leaving Quixtar I have built a business that I would bet made more in one day last year then you Quixtar business made all year? I know you like to be big on talk Cristian, just doesn't seem you are all that big when it comes to results.
"If you dread going out and showing another plan, stop for a moment and fight that negative self talk with the "yes, I can do this" decision and you will do it. Action cures fear. Inaction breeds fear and laziness. What's your fear?"
I know I can do it, many people know they can do it. They just don't want to be doing it. I mean WOW, what a concept. Someone might not want to be an IBO *gasp*
I know you like to brand those folks as losers and frankly that speaks volumes to your character.
Did you ever stop and think that it had nothing to do with fear? Could it be that someone just doesn't have a desire to show this plan to anyone? I know in your narrow world this can't exist. But in a little place I like to call reality, this is very much a possibility.
"If there was a career for College Football Game Attendee I would sign up in a second."
I am with you there. But what about being a sportswriter, or play-by-play commentator? Anon has several different things she could do with her passions as well. She has a passion for helping people, I wonder if she has ever thought of teaching any of the things she loves.
The whole idea is to sit back, think about what you really have a passion for and think of ways to transform that into a career, or even a business.
I am not saying it is all roses either. There are parts of my business that I really don't like and don't look forward to dealing with. But I am passionate enough about what I do that I am willing to deal with it to do what I enjoy.
"I am very upset with all the ignorant people putting down this great business. All you broke people have a real bad case of "stinkin thinking". YOU ALL ARE WORKING J-O-Bs and you know what that stands for don't you. My prospect (whiner) came to this site a couple of days ago and decided not to pursue this great opportunity. Do you take great joy in stealing people's dream. Losers"
I am going to go out on a limb here and put you in the "not a fan" category. Mike, do you still have a J-O-B? I think it is interesting that you call any prospect who does their research and decides not to build this business a "whiner". Perhaps the problem isn't your prospect eh?
Thank you for your concern, but I am doing quite well and don't consider myself broke at all. I for one am happy that your prospect decided to do their research before doing anything, and frankly you should be too. If reading this site is going to make them not want to join your business, something tells me they would have quit on you later anyway. So you just got freed from having to waste your time.
Instead you come here and call us Losers. Well, Mike you might want to take a listen to what Rich DeVos had to say about calling people losers. You do know who Rich DeVos is don't you?
Here is what Rich DeVos had to say about calling people losers:
"There are no losers in Amway. There are people who choose not to do it; but who are you to tell some teacher that chooses to spend the rest of his life as a dedicated teacher that he's a loser? Who are you to tell a truck driver that chooses to spend more of his time doing things other than Amway, and maybe just drivin' his truck, that he's a loser? Whoever gave you a license to brand people? This business was designed to make everybody a winner, to do as much or as little as they wanted to; and if they chose to do nothing, to make them feel better for having had the experience. We only have winners in this business; and then we have some other winners who choose not to do the business. They just might be bigger winners in life than some of you that have branded them losers."
Mike Anderson - that kind of post and that kind of attitude is one of the major reasons WHY there are folk like Drew and Imran and other critics. You've done absolutely nothing to enhance peoples view of this business opportunity and IBOs.
Back on topic - I think it was in Thomas Stanley's The Millionaire Mind where it was discussed that in self-made millionaires, one of the reasons they were successful is because everyone has things they don't like doing - successful people do it anyway. Even while *directly* pursuing a passion, if you want to succeed at it then there are things you are going to have to do that you don't want to do.
dmm - it's my belief anyone *can* succeed at Quixtar. It requires skills, not talents, so it can be learned. But for some people those skills are easier to learn than for others. Whether it's worth the effort to learn those skills or not is up to the individual to decide.
charles eaton - you are correct about it being important to control expenses. This business is no different to other businesses in that respect. It's unfortunate that some folk don't respect basic business principles. You are however incorrect about the extent of Yager's business. While a significant percentage of Quixtar and Alticor's turnover, it's certainly nowhere near that large, and the percentage that are actually operating as part of the Yager LOA (as opposed to being a part of the Yager downline in someway) is even smaller again.
insider wrote "Mike Anderson - that kind of post and that kind of attitude is one of the major reasons WHY there are folk like Drew and Imran and other critics. You've done absolutely nothing to enhance peoples view of this business opportunity and IBOs."
Joe says: Yet noone to my knowledge has filed a formal complaint against Mike Anderson. But now you can see how quixtar can get a bad reputation even though the number of formal complaints may not be high.
Balaji wrote: "I don't see how Q* is (or can be) a way to get rid of the problems that are stopping one from pursuing one's passion. In the short term, it is highly unlikely that Q* will free up one's time or money. It will do the exact opposite. In the long term, even if we assume that it creates so much of spare time and money, by the time that happens, the initial goal/passion would have been replaced by a constant craving for money/XS/motivation/edification(!)."
Balaji, I sense a note of bitterness & sarcasm in your statement. I say this because I know for a fact, that one could make hundreds of dollars in profit, immediately "out of the gate" with Quixtar. How? By simply selling products. With no necessary initial investment other than their IBO annual membership fee of approximately $50-125.00 (depending on what the IBO opts for).
I believe you're under the misconception that just because someone signs up to work this biz opp for extra cash, that they have to purchase all the tools, go to every meeting & drink 6 cases of XS a day. Not true. All those are optional.
Fastshutter,
I've heard that story as well. Years ago & many times over. And, applied to many different concepts...not only Quixtar.
However, I believe that the GOLFBALLS, the MARBLES and the SAND are different for everybody. In other words, you listed hobbies as a GOLFBALL. I personally, would STRONGLY disagree with this. Ones hobby would be SAND, in my humble opinion (IMO?).
The MO's TEMPORARILY teach to set aside the SAND items - hobbies like softball, soccer, bowling, other unproductive, more social activities, etc.-(for only one or two nights a week, by the way) to grow your Quixtar biz.
Keep the GOLFBALLS like GOD (church, by the way!!!), Family, J-O-B (which is a necessary thing!).
You guys seem to think that working the Quixtar biz HAS TO be a full time gig! It does not! There CAN be balance with it! In fact, I TEACH that to our downline.
Inquiringmind wrote: "If you look closely, you'll notice that Oprah didn't say that "money will follow," she said. "the work fulfills you." When finding work that you love, it isn't so much work as it is using your gifts and talents to their full degree. THAT is what can be fulfilling.
Anon: I didn't say the 'money will follow' either. However, what did you intimate that she 'refers' with "and the rest will follow"? MONEY??? If not money, WHAT???
IM: "If given the chance to make tons of money doing a job I hated, or earning a modest income doing work I loved, I choose less income and the more loved job."
Anon: Sorry, but in my opinion, that sounds just a tad selfish. Here's why: I don't believe you'd feel that way if you had to provide for a family for today, and the future. Not if you want to retire at a decent age. Not if you want a nestegg. Not if you truly realize that Social Security & Pensions will not be there for those aged 40 or less. Not if you really understand the volatility of the stock market (ie: 401K's). Also, 401K's stop if you lose your job.
Drew stated: "Anon has several different things she could do with her passions as well. She has a passion for helping people, I wonder if she has ever thought of teaching any of the things she loves."
Anon: I can see what you're getting at. I do wish I would've pursued things a little differently when I was younger. However, instead of being wistful & wishful, I will deal with the here & now. At this point, Quixtar is just one of several "financial" vehicles that will lead us to our future home. A ranch somewhere out west. Part of the ranch will be used as an animal rescue, rest & rehabilitation with a full staff. The Three R Ranch ;-). We'll combine that with local kids-in-need/crisis. We have several ideas. Anyway, that will fulfill part of my/our passion. My hubby has a stronger passion for people (mine is more for animals) so we'll incorporate both. We are also planning to either join or start our own international ministry.
Also, I really do love to sell. One of my biggest passions is marketing. Under the umbrella of marketing is sales. Hence, my retail focus with our quixtar biz. :-)
I also am of the belief that this biz is not for everyone and not everyone who works it will be successful. Why? The list is too long to write. The reasons are endless. However, it is unfortunately, reality.
Having said that, I also do believe, as I've stated many times before, that Quixtar offers a legitimate business opportunity. One can make "chump change" or one can replace one's full time job with this opportunity. It is what you do with it.
I believe if you are not passionate about the opportunity or what it has to offer, you will not be successful. I guess that might have been kind of what Oprah was trying to say. ;-)
Have a great weekend all!
Anon
Anon, It is from this statement that I infered that you were reading Oprah's statement differently from how I was reading it.
Anon: I didn't say the 'money will follow' either. However, what did you intimate that she 'refers' with "and the rest will follow"? MONEY??? If not money, WHAT???
Personal fulfillment, a purpose in life, using our personal gifts. If the work that you love isn't such that it can provide you with an monetary income to support yourself at a level you deem adequate, than find something else. But I stress this:
FIND WORK YOU LOVE.This doesn't mean you won't have to put effort or work into this vocation, but you will WANT to do it because you will want to improve what ever it is that you are doing. I stress this quite often to my kids as they talk about what vocation they want to pursue.
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Anon: "Sorry, but in my opinion, that sounds just a tad selfesh." (In reference to choosing a job you love over choosing a job you hate for higher pay.)
In that case, I am joining the ranks of the multitudes of selfish people out there: teachers, artists, ministers, musicians, nurses, social workers, in some cases, doctors who choose to work in remote rural areas over a city, missionaries, etc.
You like marketing and sales. That is your passion. It makes sense that you would appreciate working for Quixtar or any other business where sales are involved. That is not my gift.
You might label me as being selfish, but that is just you opinion, and our view on life are different, so no offense is taken
Anon, It is from this statement that I infered that you were reading Oprah's statement differently from how I was reading it.
Anon: I didn't say the 'money will follow' either. However, what did you intimate that she 'refers' with "and the rest will follow"? MONEY??? If not money, WHAT???
Personal fulfillment, a purpose in life, using our personal gifts. If the work that you love isn't such that it can provide you with an monetary income to support yourself at a level you deem adequate, than find something else. But I stress this:
FIND WORK YOU LOVE.This doesn't mean you won't have to put effort or work into this vocation, but you will WANT to do it because you will want to improve what ever it is that you are doing. I stress this quite often to my kids as they talk about what vocation they want to pursue.
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Anon: "Sorry, but in my opinion, that sounds just a tad selfesh." (In reference to choosing a job you love over choosing a job you hate for higher pay.)
In that case, I am joining the ranks of the multitudes of selfish people out there: teachers, artists, ministers, musicians, nurses, social workers, in some cases, doctors who choose to work in remote rural areas over a city, missionaries, etc.
You like marketing and sales. That is your passion. It makes sense that you would appreciate working for Quixtar or any other business where sales are involved. That is not my gift.
You might label me as being selfish, but that is just you opinion, and our view on life are different, so no offense is taken.
WARNING to those who dislike religious discussion in posts!! THIS MESSAGE USES REFERENCES TO GOD!
Anon,
I feel that my last post,(although it hasn't been displayed yet) may be offensive, and I think I need to clarify something.
I can't exactly remember what I wrote, but I think I need to make some things clearer so you can understand my point of view.
I am a Lutheran school teacher, my husband is a Lutheran minister. We make around 65,000 per year. Some people may think we make squat, but I feel extremely blessed. We are neither rich, nor poor, but I would say we are provided for quite well. We have a modest 3-bedroom home that we currently have a mortage on. We have 3 kids, ages 14, 12, and 8.
I believe your dream is a wonderful, unselfish, philanthropic goal. If that comes to fruition, to God be the glory!
ONE of the goals that both my husband and I have, when it comes to finances in the church, is stewardship. We are currently working toward educating our members on what Scripture says about stewardship amd the use of the gifts (both of money and time)God has given each and every one of us. If everyone would follow what God commands in the giving of first fruit gifts, there would be no need for the constant search for the "large gift donors" when it comes to fundrisers and capital fund drives.
We have invested aggressively over the past year and have seen great growth. (it was a good year--not all years will be so good, we realize.)We save, but we are definitely not financially prepared for all extreme disasters that may occur. I don't believe that the majority of the people out there are. (Such paranoid thinking would suck the joy out of living, and, for me, would display a lack of trust in God, FOR ME.) Even so, when such tragedies occur, what a great opportunity to help our neighbor. There is a 5th grade student at my school who has been dealing with cancer. While it has been a tragic and tough year for her and her family, our school had the priviledge of host a hugely successful fundraiser for her and her family. Our other students received the joy of bearing with and supporting her.
So...I find great fulfillment in my job. It won't make me or my family millionaires, and my kids won't be left with trust funds that keep them set for life, but that is not my goal. While some may find my and my husband's line of work a sacrifice, we don't see it that way. We find it a priviledge, but not in such a way that we "better than others." We work hard, sometimes complain, but we love what we do.
Selling Quixtar products, just as being a dentist, doctor, or lawyer (just a few more possibly lucrative occupations) might help us make more money and prepare us even more for the future, or help support charities, but it would take away from the work we are doing that is needed right now.
I have met with a Quixtar rep several times over the past week. He stressed many times to me the fact that successful people are only interested in the end result of becoming wealthy and successful. The process of getting there was of little consequence as long as it was moral and legal, there is no need to love or even like what you do as long as you get rich doing it.
I am a believer of having a passion for what you do and the success will follow.
His comments were a huge turn off to me.
Mike,
I don't blame you. That would turn me off too! You see.....here is a perfect example of how someone can get a skewed view of the Quixtar francise opportunity because of some knucklehead IBO. He's an IBO. I'm an IBO. But it appears we may run our businesses with different ethics, values & morals.
Mike, don't let that particular IBO keep you from this opportunity. If you are looking for a way to make extra cash or somehow better or change your situation, then do your homework & thoroughly research this opportunity. Let God lead you as well.
Inquiring Mind,
I do think we are more alike on several levels than we'd like to believe.
What I meant by the "selfish" remark was that IF one were to go out & do something they love for far less pay than they are capable of getting versus a job that would support their family, that would be selfish.
This choice could force their spouse to have to go to work which could force the kiddo's into "kiddy jail". Sorry, but I'm definitely NOT a fan of full-time daycare!!!
Anyway, when one makes certain financial choices like that, they are short-changing their family. THEY are making the choice to have the family live a certain way. THEY are making the choice to not be prepared for the tough times ahead. THEY are making the choice to not be able to start a savings account or a college fund for their children. All by taking a job they LOVE versus a job that would pay them to support their family.
By the way, the $65,000 per year is a wonderful amount. I'm sure you do feel blessed.
IM, I'm all for balance. That's why we had decided that my hubby would be the main breadwinner and I would be the primary caregiver of our children. Even if it meant living in a small apartment & cutting coupons for a few years. No amount of money is worth our kids being raised by someone else when it's our responsibility. That's just how WE feel.
Again, I think we agree perhaps more than disagree. I wish you well in your teaching & ministry endeavors.
God bless you,
Anon
Thanks for the kind comments, Anon. This might sound strange, but I'm glad that you regarded my family's income in a favorable way. When my in-laws started up with Quixtar, we were made to feel as though we shouldn't settle with or be content with our income They made us feel guilty for being content. (Even though my husband's salary exceeds everyone else in his family.) It is nice to hear from an IBO that being content with something we have is actually OK.
"What I meant by the "selfish" remark was that IF one were to go out & do something they love for far less pay than they are capable of getting versus a job that would support their family, that would be selfish."
While I understand what you are saying here, let me present to you another side that can be seen selfish as well. What if you go and get good jobs to support the family that you are capable of, but it is not what you want to be doing and you are miserable?
I think the effects of that would be more damaging to a home then one that doesn't have as much disposable income.
"While I understand what you are saying here, let me present to you another side that can be seen selfish as well. What if you go and get good jobs to support the family that you are capable of, but it is not what you want to be doing and you are miserable?
I think the effects of that would be more damaging to a home then one that doesn't have as much disposable income."
I agree, this could be the other side of the coin, but my take on it is: you have control of your own mind and how your emotions affect you. Trump speaks of it often, as well as many many other successful businessmen, CEOs, sports athletes, etc. You MUST control your thoughts.
In the same light, however, if you found that job for a decent salary, chances are, there is or will be another one out there for the same pay, similar job description, with a much better environment. Keep your eyes open!
I would not let the fear of you not being emotionally strong enough to seperate work from home prevent you from finding higher paying work for your family. Grow more to overcome that fear or "misery." If found in that situation, I would welcome the challenge and grow with it as much as possible while looking for the next opportunity. I would not bring misery home to my family.
"Grow more to overcome that fear or "misery." If found in that situation, I would welcome the challenge and grow with it as much as possible while looking for the next opportunity. I would not bring misery home to my family."
You have to see this from the situation presented. From the angle you are talking I agree with you. But, what if you are doing something that you may be capable of doing, but you are not passionate about doing it?
You may be making more money, but you just don't like what you are doing, and you only continue because it provides more disposable income for your family. If you feel stuck in a situation like that, eventually even the strongest minded individual will start to show the emotion at home.
All I am saying is that if you are doing something just for the money, eventually you are going to feel more and more miserable and that will have more of an effect then less disposable income. The whole point of the quotes is that if you do in life what you love and what fulfills you, all the rest will come.
Most people have to weigh money versus passion. I'm not necessarily passionate about the product, but I'm passionate about what I do. But my company pays more than most, so I choose to stay here.
To anon, you are a different breed of IBO, and I believe what most IBO's should strive to be. You have your feet planted on the ground and understand what Quixtar can be for your. I applaud your efforts, and wish more IBO's took your approach. Unfortunately, too many look at Quixtar as their only answer, and feel any negative as an attack on core beliefs, and you get responses like Mr. Anderson's.
Just one quick note. I too was very anti-daycare, and my wife stayed home with our first for a good 6 months until we could no longer finacially afford it due to some extenuading circumstaces. Now, at 2 years old, my daughter loves it, and asks to go. I no longer consider it kiddie jail.
Drew getting back to your original point... nicely put.
Unfortunately very few people have a passion for their jobs & careers, whatever it is they do. Some people do have a passion, but most don't. I saw it over and over again when I was in the Business. That's why people are such easy pickings for the MLM tub-thumpers... "step right up, chuck that stinking J.O.B. and make all your dreams come true!!!!"
Of course when they have a passion for all the fancy clothes and cars and McMansions, but not for doing the hard slogging.... well then it falls flat on its face.
"Of course when they have a passion for all the fancy clothes and cars and McMansions, but not for doing the hard slogging.... well then it falls flat on its face."
A very good point, and something I noticed from some IBOs in the business. My next article posted to this blog will actually address this point in more detail.
dmm,
Thanks for the kind words. We try hard to live by the "do the next right thing" mantra. We let GOD lead our lives. Not our pocketbook. Nor our upline. That being said, we do feel very blessed with MOST of the association we have through WWDB.
On the daycare note, I understand if you have no other options, you need to find safe, secure daycare for your children. There are alot of wonderful,loving daycare providers out there. My sister was one of them!
But, I just truly believe these two things: 1) most people DO have the option to have one parent home full-time (or at least part-time) if they are willing to make some sacrifices. Problem is, most people are not willing to make those sacrifices. 2) to a child, no one can replace mommy or daddy....period.
I wish you well & God's blessings.
Anon
I agree with Fastshutter, Quixtar can keep the sand! It inevitibly becomes quicksand due to the huge debts incurred to stay "core" and buy products. What passion is there in going broke when there is so much more to experience in the world?
I couldn't agree more with what Drew is saying. Quixtar identified the things that I wanted and offered a path to achieve them. I was excited about the things, but not the path. I built the "business" for 3 years and cut my losses. I have since started a successful business that fulfills not only the "things" aspect, but the heart and services-to-humanity/community aspect. Things are good, but they mean nothing if you are not fulfilling that plan/vision that is deep inside.
Post-Quixtar, I have time and money and all the things the "junkies" covet, BUT I wouldn't ever sell my peace of mind/soul or salvation for anything. What does it profit a man to gain the whole world yet lose his own soul?
Quixtar opened my eyes to many things and I truly thank them for doing it.
So Anon - are you telling us that the animals you are so passionate about just have to wait until you have your Ranch.
I'm sure they'll understand.
There must hundreds of opportunities to help the animals (Shelters/Rescues for all breeds/Vets all need volunteers) right now w/o having to be Diamond.
The animals could care less what pin level your at.
Or are you just another victim of the "$10,000 charity check syndrome" like your pals Tony, Brad, Cristian, & Ryan??
Sounds a tad selfish to me
Anon -
Your silence speaks volumes.
Screw the animals, I guess.
Yep, you are a FRAUD!!
When propects see the plan and get excited, they are excited about dreams, early retirement and residual income.
IMO, they are not excited about the quixtar business in itself.
Posted by: Joecool18 | March 1, 2007 12:42 AM