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May 7, 2006
Quixtar the Only Option?
By Preston in A/QMOs
Many WWDB speakers made the case that Quixtar is the only viable option to success, period. David Shores explained this (mp3) at Free Enterprise Days 2004. It is something I heard over and over again while I was involved with WWDB.
What is the purpose behind doing this? I also heard many times not to be double-minded (that is, do not have investments/projects/plans out side of Quixtar), and to duplicate.
Let me get this straight:
- Quixtar is your only option for success
- Duplicate your results by setting the example
- Do not be double-minded
How about doublespeak?
Because in saying these things, WWDB is certainly setting two thoughts down. They're saying its not okay to have businesses outside of Quixtar. So why do WWDB leaders operate businesses outside of Quixtar?
Comments
It's apparent that the diamond kingpins are of the philosophy: Do as I say, not as I do.
What's crazy is the downline is so faithful that they don't see the kingpins talking out of both sides of their mouths.
Preston, you are being disingenuous. I recommend readers actually click on the MP3 link and listen to it. At no point does David Shore say Quixtar is the only option. He says it's the "best option" and nothing else "matches up to this". That is nothing like saying it's "the only option".
Insider,
What are the odds at success with Q verses other bus opps?
The only "viable" option is what I said.
"There are no solutions out there that match up to this"..."and you know I'm right" ... "best option"...
Why would someone want a solution that is not the best one?
Listen to it, again and again. And again, and again. He is speaking clearly insider, and his point is very clear (which is very different than just saying the words).
Mevi: let's say you want to get from San Francisco to New York. You could take a boat, a bus, a train. You could walk, you could drive, you could ride a bike, take a horse.
All of them are solutions to get you where you want to go.
Or you could fly.
None of the other solutions "match up" to flying. Flying is obviously (in most cases) "the best option".
"You know I'm right" Mevi.
But it doesn't mean the others are not options. All of them are "viable" options.
As for "The only "viable" option is what I said."
How about the headline?
"Quixtar the Only Option?"
Or the dot point?
"Quixtar is your only option for success"
You're not only trying to claim Shores said something he didn't, you're even trying to claim you didn't say something you did! And it's all sitting right there above where you try to pretend it doesn't exist!
Qblog - the standards are falling rapidly
xanadustc - we're talking here about what David Shores actually said vs what Preston claims he said. Whether or not Shores' claims are reasonable or not is another issue altogether.
FWIW: I had an "Is" at the start of the title that Qblog removed. Besides, it is a question. Notice the question mark?
I remember some nite owl meetings with our upline direct (WWDB). I heard him tell some of the IBO's that Amway - WAS THEIR ONLY HOPE.
My experience, others may vary.
JoeCool: You have much experience on both sides, in Amway and now critical of systems. From your dealing's with people who left "the system" have you encountered a person, of which you can provide evidence, that had no business experience prior to Amqay/quixtar, quit this business because it "doesn't work" but made a "traditional business" profitable to the same level as is touted by "the plan"? (2-5 years, six figure income) This is to help with the claim that this business doesn't work, yet something else will for the "average joe".
I am curious.
Lets remember everyone, that first of all, no business or opportunity ou there is perfect. There is always a surplus of critics to point out the faults in anything. I can say from personal experience that there is both good and bad people involved with quixtar. The thing to note, is that the quixtar business is exactly what you make of it. I know that the blogs about quixtar that are negative come from ex-IBO's who felt they failed and now have to blame anything but themselves. My wife and I have had nothing but positive experiences from the people in WWDB because we understood that they are not perfect, they are just sincere people trying to do somthing great in life. We could have been offended by some things...but the same could be said of anything involving PEOPLE. Quit making excuses and choose to be a positive force in life rather than a negative critic.
Brad> JoeCool: You have much experience on both sides, in Amway and now critical of systems. From your dealing's with people who left "the system" have you encountered a person, of which you can provide evidence, that had no business experience prior to Amqay/quixtar, quit this business because it "doesn't work" but made a "traditional business" profitable to the same level as is touted by "the plan"? (2-5 years, six figure income) This is to help with the claim that this business doesn't work, yet something else will for the "average joe". I am curious.
Joe> Yes Brad, one of my downline started a UPS store right after scamway and made a 6 figure income. He did have to front the 100K startup fee though.
ledbetterhaney> My wife and I have had nothing but positive experiences from the people in WWDB because we understood that they are not perfect, they are just sincere people trying to do somthing great in life. We could have been offended by some things...but the same could be said of anything involving PEOPLE. Quit making excuses and choose to be a positive force in life rather than a negative critic.
Joe> I'm glad you had a good experience. My WWDB upline was abusive, advised people to skip house payments, quit their jobs to attend functions, never miss a function, even if you are supposed to attend your brother's wedding. I could go on and on if you need more examples.
Joecool, that's when you should've JUST SAID NO!!! ;-)
I was in the World Wide system for 5 years and I left to eventully start my own business. Within 5 years I was making just a little shy of 6 figures and I have accumulated assets that are appreciating. I have acheived way more in a conventional business than I did in Quixtar/Amway and had no business experience or college.
These other businesses appear to be the tool system businesses of these lying cowardly "kingpins", where they make 2/3 to 9/10 of their income, while advocating the A/Q products to their IBO's.
Posted by: Tex | May 8, 2006 9:48 AM