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December 13, 2005
Investigating Oasis LifeSciences - Ownership
Who owns Oasis LifeSciences?
The Oasis Global Resources page mentions that the company is part of an "ECONET" owned by Bill Lee. What the page doesn't mention is that Lee is also the Chairman of Univera, Inc., a South Korean biotech. Univera happens to be the parent company of Oasis LifeSciences, which is a division of MaxCell BioScience.
If Oasis LifeSciences is a subsidiary of Univera, why isn't that information clearly posted on the Oasis website? A quick search of the site reveals that the word "Univera" appears less than a dozen times and none of those instances explain the relationship between Oasis LifeSciences and Univera.
For contrast take a look at Quixtar's relationship with parent company Alticor. According to Google, the word "Alticor" appears on www.quixtar.com almost 1,000 times. There's no confusion about who owns Quixtar.
While doing research about the ownership of Oasis LifeSciences I made a curious discovery. A Google Cached page of the Oasis LifeSciences website lists Derek Hall as the Vice Chairman and CEO of Univera Inc. However, the live page simply lists Hall as the "Chief Executive Officer" and makes no mention of his role with Univera.
Is it possible that Hall recently ended his role as Vice Chairman and CEO of Univera and the live page at the Oasis site simply reflects that new reality? I suppose but I did find a Nutracon China Conference schedule from December 3, 2005, where Hall is listed as "Vice-Chairman & CEO, Univera Inc." And why doesn't this November 17, 2005, post from the former Passport blog mention Hall's role at Univera? The post generously mentions his roles with other companies but nary a word about Univera. I wonder why that is?
Strange and Suspicious
Seriously, I wonder why I can't find more information about Univera. Hell, I can't even find an official Univera, Inc. website. It's 2005 and a 28-year-old company with 1,000 employees and $200 million annual revenue doesn't have a website? What's up with that?
I probably wouldn't be so suspicious if I didn't know about Operation Cure.All and the recent name change (circa 2004) at Oasis LifeSciences (formerly Oasis Wellness Network). What's still confusing is how Univera, MaxCell BioScience and Oasis LifeSciences all fit together. And there's probably a really good explanation for all this but I can't understand why that explanation isn't really easy to find. That's what has me so curious.
If you can shed light on all this please send me an email or leave a comment.
UPDATE: Ty Tribble has published two entries on his blog explaining that Univera is the parent company of Oasis LifeSciences. Tribble is new to Oasis, coming from Passport and Quixtar before that.
It says Univera right on the front of the Oasis LifeSciences building, but conspiracy and cover up sure sounds more interesting.
Ok, I really don't want to involve in this discussion. (My focus: quixtar) BUT
I've never seen that building, or Quixtar main building. Such basic information is shared by internet nowadays.
Qrush, where are you?
Good damage control on the old blog, Ty.
You have some misinformation. Oasis has interesting relationships, but everyone who is interested in Oasis LifeSciences has the relationship of all the companies explained. On the web site, http://www.oasislifesciences.com is a link, very prominent, "About Us". Click next at the bottom of the first two pages and there is a paragraph on each of the sister companies in the EcoNet.
Bill Lee, see the first page of "About Us", is the sole owner of four different companies: AloeCorp, Nam Yang Aloe, Unigen, and Oasis LifeSciences. He calls all of the companies together the EcoNet, for Economic Network.
As you can read on the Internet, AloeCorp is the largest producer of commercial aloe vera in the world, supplying over 40% of the world's aloe to companies like Johnson and Johnson, etc.
Nam Yang Aloe is the largest direct sales company in Korea, selling a line of aloe based products.
Unigen Pharmiceuticals is the research and development arm with 100,000 sq. ft. of lab space doing research on the genomic and proteonic level (DNA) on natural plants and their interaction with humans.
Unigen is not the parent company of Oasis LifeSciences. It is under Maxcell Biosciences, probably steming from the original incorporation in 1989. Oasis is simply the point of the spear of the EcoNet. We are the distribution arm. The other companies are our sister companies and we do have exclusive first rights to anything Unigen develops.
AloeCorp owns Aloe plantations in the US (largest in the US), in Mexico (largest in Mexico), and in China. They also own 140,000 acres in Russia near Vladivostock for growing other plants like ginseng. Most of the land in Russia is a rainforest perserve for plant sources to study.
Nam Yang Aloe does the manufacturing for a majority of Oasis products. So the EcoNet is made up of the entire group, covering everything from growing, manufacturing, and R&D, to distribution.
No intent to confuse. Most distributors understand the EcoNet.
Now, to Derek Hall. Derek was and still is the Chairman and CEO of Unigen. When Stuart Ochiltree's (former CEO of Avon Direct Sales) wife died, Derek was made the acting CEO of Oasis. That position was made permanent since then. Stuart remains the Chairman of Oasis.
To confuse you further, Unigen West, the US portion of Unigen is in the same building as Oasis. So, Derek has one office and oversees both companies. But Unigen West is the smaller of the two arms with about 18,000 sq. ft. of research space. Unigen East in Korea has someone running the day to day operations in their new 80,000+ sq. ft. facility.
Hope that clarifies the subjects. No one is trying to cover up anything. Feel free to ask me anything to clarify Oasis. I've always found that if I wanted to know about Presbyterians I wouldn't consult with a Baptist. No offense to either or you.
Thanks for letting me have my 2+ cents worth.
I forgot to mention Univera. Univera is the parent company of all the EcoNet companies. Stuart Ochiltree serves as the Vice-Chairman of Univera and Bill Lee is the Chairman.
How ridiculous is that arguement when AMWAY changes its name to Quixtar to avoid having people reference it as Amway and then to Aliticor instead of keeping the Amway name, which you would think after 40 years of branding they would be proud of but NOOOOO....they have to run from it when everyone knows they are Amway... talk about a cover up....."or should I call that the elusive curiosity approach" If you want to do so goofy investigative reporting get on a plane and take a corporate tour we have luncheons in our headquarters every Thursday with hundreds of people visiting and it is completely explained and you can meet the entire management team because they dont hide behind walls... they are proven leaders not simply groomed children of the founders like Amway or is it Aliticor or is it Quixtar..... I am not sure who you are...
Scotty - If you want, I'll set up a tour for ... whatever person dreamed this article up on a luncheon or Fly-In.
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The name Univera means one or only truth and it is the name Bill Lee's father wished to name all of the companies of the Econet owned by his son Bill Lee. Bill is honoring his father this year with changing the name to Univera. There is no mystery or mysterious activity going on. Bill Lee is the finest human being you could ever hope to associate with. I have spent six years with this company and continue to be blown away that I get to work with this company, it's products and the caliber of management we are blessed with. To those on the outside I say "eat your heart out" cuz you'll never find a better company to affiliate yourself with. We sleep very well at night knowing who we are affiliated with.
I was over there for the official 30 year celebration of the new name change in South Korea this past April. We were the official representatives from the US, The Oasis Blue Diamonds and FLC. It was a beautiful celebration held in the 60,000 Dae Jeon World Cup stadium.
We will officially change the name to Univera Life Sciences at our August Convention. Derek Hall is Back as CEO of the Econet which he never left. He was mainly filling in for Stuart Ochiltree while he was on leave to heal from the death of his wife. He is now back as CEO and Chairman of Univera Life Sciences.
Hope that clears up your confusion. The new website is underconstruction.
Blue Diamond Executive
Here's an interesting press release,
Seems Univera Lifesciences don't want to pay their associates as agreed and they like changing their payplan every year or two.
(PRWeb) January 23, 2007 -- Univera Lifesciences, makers of Ageless Xtra, Regenicare, Ageless Essentials and other health and wellness products, have announced that the personal volume requirements for its sales associates in order to receive a paycheck has been increased by 150 percent. New requirements are as follows: New Associate 40 pv Senior Associate 100 pv Executive 100 pv Silver 100 pv Gold 100 pv Platinum 100 pv Diamond 100 pv Blue Diamond 100 pv
The effect of this increase calculates to approximately $165.00 per month per associate in order to receive a paycheck.
This represents a 150 percent increase in PV requirements to get paid.
This is the third time in four years that Univera Lifesciences have changed or raised their requirements in order for pay their associates.
To discuss this new requirement, post opinions and participate in a poll, one can visit a univera lifesciences forum at: bestmlmcompany.net
I am just trying to get some information about Univera Life Sciences as a home-based business. Is there anyone out there that can help me out. I've tried several different websites but cannot find anyone to contact to see if there is any interest for me to get involved in this company. I would appreciate any knowing any way of getting this information so I can make an informed decision to see if I want to make this a home-based business. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated by anyone. My e-mail is email@example.com.
First off why are you throwing mud at a company you aren't even involved with? Are you upset that you can't make money helping people with your company's products. Personally I'd rather give free gifts and change people's lives then sell them CDs and Books every month to make them feel all warm and fuzzy about themselves.
And, if you are involved with Univera then you will have no trouble consuming products equal to 100BV points a month. We all want to live long enough to enjoy the financial freedom developed from Bill Lee's vision and Stephen Cherniske's brilliance.
Live long and prosper!
scott is so full of i dont know what...luncheons and tours?? i am not surprised he finds himself in yet another mlm meltdown. I was his live in girlfriend when he owned quantum leap...and i couldnt believe that crap that went on...then and now...i thought he would have learned a lesson and turned a new leaf... thanks for living with me and at the same time joining and paying for a dating service...you havent changed a bit have you scotty? thats classic!
Stephen, the increase you are refering to in your January 25th comment is only for one part of the pay, daily pay, and that is when someone signs up and buys a gifting pack to show others. The company wants its associates to be a product of the product and with that, people will have better health. If people just bought a box of essentials for 40 bv they would be experiencing the best nutritional breakthrough in the last 25 years. Where else can you drink a product that is bio available and digested as soon as it is ingested? Nano technology is now in the news and this company is at the forefront of the movement. I have two pharmacists in my family and they are very pround of my affiliation with this company. When one really looks into this company there is nothing but one word that comes to mind, AWESOME. I never wanted to be part of an MLM and either do many of the people that are doing this. We can not help it because the products work so well. No other company use genomics and proteomics for testing plants. That is the difference, that is compelling. The owner does not take a dime from the company because he is already a billionaire. His focus is to unlock the plant world and bring the best of nature to mankind. This is in respect and continuance of the legacy of his father who had his health restored with Aloe Vera. Bill Lee owns 40% of the worlds Aloe Vera.
I just got back from a business meeting about univera. My friend turned me on to this stuff, and now he wants to recruit me. But, it sounds like bad news to me. Ive done some research on MLM and it sounds exactly like the structure they precribe to. I want to know WHY a company that has an 'amazing' product like this has to resort to an unsustainable business model...I mean if all this research has been done...billions of dollars of it supposedly...WHERE can I read about it myself? Even if this product is as good as it is claiming to be, isn't there a risk of market oversaturation?
You can read about the science behind Univera products at www.unigenpharma.com
I'm not sure how the benefits of ageless Xtra could be summarized in a 30 second radio or tv spot, so it is a natural product for word of mouth through Network Marketing.
As for MLM being an unsustainable business model, you may want to do a little further research. The Network Marketing industry has doubled in the last 10 years and the growth is out pacing the growth of traditional retail sales.
The word NATURAL is used, but not ORGANIC. Is there any alteration of plants done ? It doesn't say only organic CORN used , or anything like that. So interesting that they say "natural" but talk about genetics, DNA,etc. Makes me think there is alteration of DNA in the plants, or some genetic engineering going on. Just want to be sure it's not frankin-science before getting involved. Also product being effective in 3 days causing change makes me think it is genetic engineering going on because most herbs, and glyconutrients take time to affect change in the body. Where as altering something in DNA would be immediate.
I don't know about all of the other people in this blog, but here is my story: My grandmother sent me a box of ageless in April after I had outpatient surgery. Honestly, I only tried it because my grandmother sent it to me. Within in a few days I noticed that I slept better, woke up easily, and just felt really good. I have a husband and 5 kids and I run my own business, and I noticed the extra energy. Also, people began to notice and comment on my complexion and my weight loss. My grandmother DOES NOT sell the product, but she referred to a distributor who simply directed me to the website and gave me her referral ID# so that I could place an order. I noticed that you got a better price if you paid the $30.00 to sign up as an associate- so I did. I wasn't intending to sell ANYTHING (I don't think I'm a good salesperson by nature)- however, you can only get the product through a referral and when my friends (none of whom are gullible or stupid- most of them are successful business people)wanted it I placed the order for them. By the end of June I had earned (and received) more than 1300.00 in bonuses and 870.00 in commissions. Now I have decided to actually put a little effort into this as a business because of the response I have gotten frm people. I have no past experience with MLM but I don't see the difference between selling Ageless and selling insurance (other than the fact that lots of people who buy insurance tend to be up the creek when the time comes to collect benefits from a company that has made BILLIONS using their money).
I believe people should do their homework before going into anything. Once you've done the research- pray on it and trust your own judgement over something you read by strangers on a blog. Everything in life is a risk and there is no such thing as something for nothing. If you think this is a good fit for you take your shot. I'm sure that Avon and Mary Kay both had plenty of naysayers in their early days.
Abundant Ageless blessings to you,
Myshjua the Ageless Diva!
Learn about oasis before putting blame and question on who runs the company. The products are genuine or they would not back them..Bill Lee is a very smart man and to see all these comments on the company structure is silly.. talk to people and see how they are doing and you will see that the people who work for Oasis believe in Oasis and its products..
Univera Life Sciences has, in recent times, has seriously damaged its image. First of all, and perhaps most importantly, was the decision by Univera to rollout new product (Experia) with no communication to anyone such as its employees or associates that it was to replace their hallmark product - Ageless Extra. Let's take a closer look at what this action means to the company's bottom line.
1. By failing to inform the very people through which sales are processed that the product was going to change dramatically in:
a) Appearance ~ packaging - from wine bottle look with graphics depicting the antioxidant berry derivative contained within to a very sterile, cold white bottle with a wrinkly label that looks more like it should be used for cleaning a toilet)
b) Taste ~ from a light, fruity blend that went well on it's own in water or with juice to now tasting very chemically and unnatural - many say detergent-like and bitter.
c) New warnings have appeared on this new detergent-like bottle about keeping the product out of the reach of children.
d) Sodium benzoate is now present in Experia. Big red flag, especially when it contradicts the entire premise of cellular revitalization the company claims it's product helps with. The following is an excerpt derived from a CONCISE INTERNATIONAL CHEMICAL ASSESSMENT DOCUMENT No 26 on sodium benzoate: ...that sodium benzoate by itself can damage and inactivate vital parts of DNA in a cell's mitochondria. "The mitochondria consumes the oxygen to give you energy and if you damage it - as happens in a number of diseased states - then the cell starts to malfunction very seriously. And there is a whole array of diseases that are now being tied to damage to this DNA - Parkinson's and quite a lot of neuro-degenerative diseases, but above all the whole process of aging."
These things make consuming and selling Univera products extremely difficult unless you hide them from people. Allow also for the fact that you hide serious deformities in the administrative aspect of the business which include, but are not limited to, the following:
2. a) Customer care line ~ The toll-free used by associates and customers alike is handled by maybe 2 or 3 employees at the most for the entire continent of North America resulting in lengthy wait times of up to an astonishing 5 hours (for those who put their cell phones on speaker and carry on with their day) One quickly realizes that his business issues are not going to get dealt with expeditiously with this system in place. When you do get hold of someone, you are dealing with an employee who is, by his own admission, just a call center guy. He cannot make a proactive decision about anything since his hands are tied by policy and bureaucratic procedure. So continues the cycle of frustration as you try to source the cause of, and solution to, your problem. Additionally, the hold music/recording you are treated to goes into annoying propaganda mode that includes over-the-top voices extolling methods by which to hard-sell the products to customers, the very same customers who are listening to it whilst on hold for hours.
b) Shipping – Where one might expect a structure similar to other big companies that sell by MLM, Univera has opted to develop a website where an associate’s ability to track orders is extremely compromised. Orders get lost and are not recorded in the system. As a result, product is not shipped for weeks past its agreed upon time. This results in major customer dissatisfaction, as customers are made to wait and wait for a product that, when it finally arrives, is not at all what they came to expect (read- communication)
The purpose of the recent convention in Florida was, as Eric Miller – CSR in the call center at Univera HQ pointed out, to create excitement about the new surprise product – the detergent bottles containing Experia. In much similar fashion to what you would find at a “dog & pony” type show (where a speculative company solicits investors to finance them based on hopes for profit contained in a prospectus) By just sending out this new item without any pre-emption, the company has failed to plan. When you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that one of the products recently in Univera's line (prior to the recent changes), contained sucralose, which is Splenda! (I think it was Ageless). I don't know if the product is fantastic or not, but I do know that I question a "nutrition company's" basic precepts if they would include America's 'flavor of the month' non-nutritive sweetener in their product.
I am a Naturopathic Physician licensed in Washington State and I have been using Univera products for nearly 2 years now. To say that I was reluctant to use anything from a network marketing company would be an understatement at the very least. I am extremely picky about the supplements I use with my patients and with my family and prior to using Ageless Xtra I used virtually nothing that didn't qualify as professional quality supplements from companies I knew and trusted.
I was introduced to Ageless Xtra by a patient whom I had been working with for a little over a year. I saw this patient first two years after she had survived a very drastic course of chemotherapy and radiation which probably saved her life but which left her -- a former winner of triathlons in the over-40 division -- extremely depleted and exhausted and with chronic joint pain. We made significant progress but she had not regained her former state of athletic health at the time she was introduced to Univera Products. When I saw her at a followup visit after she had been taking the products for about two months, I was astonished at her level of vitality and that she was running again and feeling better than ever -- and with greatly reduced pain. I decided it would be irresponsible of me as a physician NOT to check out something that appeared to have such marked results, but I was still extremely skeptical. I researched the company thoroughly, asked questions of the Chief Science Officer, Steven Cherniske, questioned other health care professionals about their use of the products (there are many, many), listened to others' stories of the results they had experienced, and finally decided to try the products myself and also to give some to my family members to try. I also started introducing Ageless to a few select patients that I hoped might benefit.
I had good personal results, although not as dramatic as some, but solid and consistent improvements in my energy and ability to deal with stress. But I was blown away by the changes I saw in my 85-year old mother and my 88-year old father. In fact my step-mother insisted that my father keep taking the products because he was so much improved. My mother's cognitive function improved so much it was as though she was 10 years younger, mentally, and her energy and motivation improved also. My husband saw similar results with his octegenarian parents.
At the same time, my few patients I had started on it were coming in feeling great and wanting more. Their baselines (for energy, ability to deal with stress, anxiety, and mental focus) were all recorded in their charts, so it was very easy to assess their results. (I also found improved lab values in a number of patients that I have followed taking the products over time.) I finally decided that it would be stupid not to use something that worked so consistently well just because it wasn't a marketing model I was comfortable with.
Since then I have found the people I have worked with in the company to be some of the warmest, kindest, and most authentic human beings I have had the honor to be associated with. I believe this is a truly great company and I am proud to be a part of it.
Yeah, okay, the company made some mistakes with this last changeover, with changing data bases, products, marketing materials, etc., all at once. That many changes at the same time are bound to result in some snafus, and I have been unhappy with delayed products and long call-center wait times, also. BUT, I know that the company will make good on their promises and I have seen evidence that they are doing everything they can think of to make things right with their customers and associates. I think that the way they are handling the challenges is a measure of the integrity and far-reaching vision of the company, as well as a demonstration of their guiding principle -- "Do the right thing."
And although I liked the flavor of the Ageless Xtra better than the Xperia, I do think that they have improved it and taking out the sucrulose (which masked the bitterness of some of the herbs) is a big plus for many people. So I mix it with a little juice to make it work for myself, but just as many of my patients thought the old formulation was "too sweet" as those who liked it. And I think the new packaging and marketing materials look great -- crisp and professional. That, of course, is a matter of opinion, but one I find is shared by other professionals in health care and in marketing.
Okay, that's my 2 cents. (okay -- more than 2¢)
Go out and try the products if you haven't. Even my extremely skeptical scientifically-minded husband had undeniable positive results on the products although it took him a little longer to see the results. Oh, and by the way, no they are not tinkering with the DNA, they are just looking at the DNA level to see which plants will produce which effects. And even with the other supplements I use in my practice I see that some plants can be fairly fast acting whereas others do take time to build up so you see noticible results. With Xperia, I find that the amount of time it takes to see results varies widely from almost immediately to several weeks.
Blessings and Good Health!
Pushpa Larsen, ND
I ran into a phone number one night driving from Port Orchard to Bremerton along the bay- I called the number an a man answered the phone. That man surprised me and for about an hour spoke to me about Oasis=univera. My natural mother and father came to see me back during 2005. My mother had been having horrible problems with pain. I drove all the way down to Lacey , Olympia to meet the man and his wife. He gave me a box of Regeny care. My mother took it with her back to their home and began drinking the product. I had placed an order for my mother of Regenicare. My mother began to experience a renewal and her joints began to funtion better and her pain dissapeared and my mother claims that the Regeny care does wonder for her overal joint funtions etc. I think that Regeni care does work.
My parents are sold out for this company and their products. I have a daughter with ADD and learning disabilities and it floors me that they think giving my child Ageless will "cure" her.
They take this stuff for everything that is bothering them, back pain, headaches, joint pain. I just can't begin to believe that it cures everything.
My daughter just spent a week with 5 child learning specialists and I took the Ageless to them, since my parents say this is the "key" to unlocking what is "wrong" with my daughter. They all looked at the ingredients and agreed that a Flinstone vitamin had more to offer than this drink.
Thanks but no thanks to Univera and their super expensive vitamins.
Thank you for having a suspicious mind and looking out for us, it is appreciated.
Yes, the company had some problems during the switch over of new products,ordering, etc.
BUT... I've been taking these products for over seven years and its the BEST stuff I've ever taken.
I really feel sorry for the little girl above, who doesn't get to try these products. Mom, you're making a big mistake and your parents are right, as usual. Try it, you'll be very surprised.
I know 100 people who have had the most amazing things happen with their health from using just the berry juice and aloe. Many friends have called, crying, and thanking me for telling them about this great company.
Don't like it, get your money back.