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December 6, 2005
Investigating Oasis LifeSciences - Cure.All
By QBlog in Oasis LifeSciences
So, what's going on with Oasis LifeSciences? I've been doing quite a bit of research since learning that Bo Short was essentially dissolving his Passport business to join his former Quixtar friends at Oasis. That research has uncovered information you won't find on the Oasis controlled blogs.
Today I'm launching a multi-part series dedicated to sharing my discoveries about Oasis LifeSciences and its principle players.
Operation Cure.All
According to the Rocky Mountain News, Oasis LifeSciences was "formerly known as MaxCell BioScience and Oasis Wellness Network." It's not immediately clear when the name "Oasis LifeSciences" was developed but the domain, oasislifesciences.com, was registered June, 2004.
Why would MaxCell BioScience and Oasis Wellness Network change the company name? It's only been in business a little over six years. Could it be an effort to avoid being connected to Operation Cure.All?
What is Operation Cure.All?
Operation Cure.All was a Federal sting operation designed to stop Internet scams for products that purport to cure a variety of ailments. The Operation was part of a coordinated effort headed by the FTC with help from the FDA, Health Canada and various state Attorneys General. MaxCell BioScience was one of several companies caught in the investigation.
The FTC complaint details the charges against what is now known as Oasis LifeSciences.
The Federal Trade Commission, having reason to believe that MaxCell BioScience, Inc., a corporation, and Stephen Cherniske, individually and as an officer of the corporation ("respondents"), have violated the provisions of the Federal Trade Commission Act
After being busted for making "numerous allegedly false and unsubstantiated health claims" the FTC ordered MaxCell BioScience and Stephen Cherniske to abide by a detailed settlement agreement. The agreement includes paying a $150,000 fine to the FTC as well as ceasing a variety of health claims about products.
Did You Know?
Does the reality of Operation Cure.All mean you shouldn't get involved with Oasis LifeSciences? No, not at all. I'm merely sharing information that might be useful in your decision making. The final order was issued July 30, 2001 (a few months before Bo Short launched Passport) and a lot can change in four years. I certainly can't find evidence of any new sting operations involving Oasis. If this isn't information you care about, then simply ignore it.
UPDATE: I've received information from Brett Dabe explaining that "MaxCell BioScience is still in operation. All corporate checks are paid through Maxcell. The change from Oasis Wellness Network to Oasis Life Sciences was marketing strategy."
Yeah, the change from Amway to Quixtar was marketing strategy too.
Also, it's funny that none of the newly converted Passport blogs mention MaxCell BioScience as the parent company of Oasis LifeSciences. In fact, the MLM Blog recently removed a comment that made the MaxCell/Oasis connection. Compare the current post and the Google Cache copy.
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You know the old saying, "You can take the diamonds out of the tools but you can't take the tools away from a Dianond.
Especially a "Blue" Diamond.
Just thought I would mention that perhaps one of the reasons for Oasis LifeSciences changing their name was that their was/is another Oasis Wellness.
I used to always get their advertisements when searching for Oasis Wellness a few years ago. I don't know if they are still in business or not. But they appeared to be a
well established company. They sold wheelchairs and stuff like that.
There may have been a copyright issue on the Name. But I'm not going to waste my time trying to find out for sure.
Because of the growth of Oasis Lifesciences, the other company's ads rarely appear while searching.
If you are looking into Oasis Lifesciences and the FDA, and FTC, you must also look into the argument that the FDA and FTC are in the "Back Pocket" of the Pharmaceutical Industry.
Now whether you believe this or not is up to you. But there is a whole lot of history and precedent to support this theory.
Try reading Kevin Trudeau's book: Natural Cures They Don't Want You to Know About"
Lets look at the facts:
Oasis Lifescineces was presented with allegations from the FDA that they were making claim cures, mainly by Oasis Distributors. According to the FDA you can not make a claims of cures or treatments unless you get classified as a Drug. which costs millions of dollars. Which of course goes to the FDA.
This is why you always see or hear Disclaimers from ALL natural health companies: "This product does not treat, cure diseases, blah, blah, blah. Even if you have all the proof in the world, that it helps a specific disease, the FDA will not let you say it.
So what would you do if you were Oasis Lifesciences, and the FDA made these allegations and threatened to shut you down? Would you go to court and risk it all against their powerful attorneys that may have some evidence of some Rogue Distributors that were making Cure Claims, OR... would you settle, pay the fine, and start a program to inform all distributors that they can not make these claims?
Well Oasis, chose the later for the good of the company and it's distributors.
Bottom Line, if you are considering joining any Natural Health Company, you must understand the Conflict that goes on everyday with the FDA, the Drug Companies, and Natural Health Companies. It's a contant Battle. The pharmaceutical companies do not want Natural Cures, and they will do anything to keep you misinformed in order for you to buy more of their drugs. They even pay off FDA Employees to do it. They may not do it directly. They throw private parties, offer jobs to FDA officials kids, and stuff like that.
If you don't believe that, open your eyes at you local Doctor's Office. Who is constantly
" schmoosing" your Doctor with gifts etc. The pharamceutical rep. The same thing goes on at the top, only on a bigger scale. Instead of small gifts, they give vacations, jobs, college funds, and stuff.
Bottom Line, you must be informed about this conflict, and take any fines, settlements against any Natural Health Company with a grain of salt.
And Because Oasis Lifesciences is probably one of the Pharmaceutical Companies biggest threats now, I expect more attacks by the FDA, in the future.
But if you still want to believe in the FDA, whose drug approvals cause the death of over 150,000 people a year, over a company that has caused 0, then I guess you can.
If you are at considering joining Oasis, Take a serious look at Our Team. (Do searches on their names) We would love to have you, especially if you play golf. Sorry for the length, but in order to make an informed decision, I'm including Bio's of Our Team Members. I can put you in the first level of any of these Members.
Another Golf Professional has Joined Oasis.
HOLLY GEOGHEGAN has Joined Oasis 12-01-05
Marketing and Business Development Consultant
Over the past 15 years, Holly Geoghegan (pronounced Gey-gan) has continually used her creativity to produce successful marketing campaigns for her clients. Her enthusiastic and energetic approach moved Golfweek Magazine to name her one of the top 50 women who have made an impact on the game and industry of golf.
As president of Golf Marketing Services, Geoghegan has helped companies; such as Ashworth, Izzo Systems, Gustbuster Umbrellas, Bite Shoes and Zero Restriction Outerwear, that have gone from struggling start-ups to market leaders in their category. Former Communications Director for the LPGA, Geoghegan was a founding partner of the first golf web site, iGOLF, launched in 1995. The company was acquired a few years later by Times-Mirror, Inc., publisher of Golf Magazine. In 1999, Geoghegan focused her efforts developing and marketing the first e-commerce golf site, Liquidgolf.com.
Geoghegan is concerned about the future of the game and the industry. She was a founding member of the International Network of Golf (1990), the largest media-based organization in the golf industry. She has been instrumental in the growth and development of the Executive Women’s Golf Association and was responsible for securing EWGA’s first title sponsor for their national championship. Most recently, her company provided the marketing muscle behind the Golf Society of the United States growing the organization into the second largest dues paying membership club in the country
Another Golf Professional Has Joined Oasis!
KEVIN THISTLE Has Joined Oasis 12-01-05
When Kevin Thistle stands on the first tee block of the Angus Glen Golf Club, he’s at work. As vice-president and general manager of one of Canada’s best public golf courses, Thistle takes his greens seriously -- and it has paid off. Under his direction, Angus Glen brought in $5 million in sales last year, a figure five times the industry average. In 2002, the course was selected to host the Canadian Open, an honour only bestowed upon the best-tended, best-managed courses in the country. Perhaps even more impressive is Thistle’s role as a driving force behind the creation of Angus Glen North, a course that, two years after opening, was awarded the prestigious 2007 Canadian Open. Thistle was selected Markham’s Business Leader of the Year in 2003 and continues to inspire students by working as a UTSC mentor. Whether he is volunteering his time refereeing hockey or organizing UTSC’s Alumni and Friends Golf Tournament, Thistle is a great ambassador for his profession and for the Scarborough campus.
Another Golf Professional Has Joined Oasis!
Bruce Sims, USGTF Member, Richardson, Texas
My enthusiasm for the game began with my dad while I was in high school.
In 1970, I joined the Air Force and was stationed at Elgin Air Force Base in Ft. Walton Beach, Florida. That is when my passion for the game became even more real when I recorded my first sub-par round - a 65! I was later transferred to Clark Air Force Base in the Philippines and I assisted at the base golf club.
Upon my return to the United States, I attended Texas Tech University in Lubbock, Texas. There I was on the golf team and over the next few years had a very successful amateur career. I decided that I wanted to be more involved in the golf industry, so I purchased a golf retail store and club repair. It was at that same time that the USGTF came into my career.
In 1997, I completed my certification in South Texas. I would like to thank Steve Williams, Leslie Duke, and Mike Levine for helping me. Since gaining my certification I have owned the Lubbock Golf Academy, I was an assistant at the Dunes Golf and Beach Club in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and offered the Director of Instruction position at Possum Trot Learning Center. There I taught with America's Favorite Golf Schools and enhanced my knowledge and desire even further to teach.
In 2000, I relocated back to the Dallas area where I have hade the pleasure of meeting and working with USGTF Master Teaching Professional Rick Howard. We are presently conducting America's Favorite Golf Schools in both Dallas and San Antonio. I have also recently been hired as the Head Golf Professional at the Golf Club at McKinney in McKinney, Texas. I would like to thank fellow USGTF member J.D. Winkle of Broken Arrow, Oklahoma for his belief in me to make the recommendation for that position.
The USGTF has come full circle for me. Beacuse of this great organization and the people with in it I am grateful. This is allowing me to promote the game of golf and live my dream.
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Another Golf Professional Has Joined Oasis!
Greg Salazar, Golf Professional
Greg has been a Golf Professional and has run his own golf academy for 8 years. His academy has operated at such facilities as Foxrun Golf Centre, Bushwood Golf Club, and Angus Glen Golf Club.
His method of teaching is easy to follow and results oriented. With over 900 children and 450 adults having enjoyed lessons over the years, with measurable results and satisfaction, you can count on improving your game with this track record.
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Another Golf Professional Has Joined Oasis!
"Try reading Kevin Trudeau's book: Natural Cures They Don't Want You to Know About"
Is it just me or does anyone else see the flaw in reccomending anything by Kevin Trudeau as valid.
Why not just say, Ponzi had a great marketing idea?
Ok, lets say FDA sucks, and pharmacutical cos are evil.
How does Oasis become good? How do I know?
Whew. And here I thought conspiracy theory was limited to the murder of JFK...
Imran, the FDA does suck, and as for pharmeceutical companies, they are not evil, they produce many life saving innovations, it is evil of them to attach themselves to a parasitic entity like the FDA, but you are dead on when you ask how the suckiness of the FDA demonstrates the merit of Oasis.
None of those golfers impresses me. Give me a call back when you land Happy Gilmore. Because, as everybody knows, obscure golf pros lend all sorts of credibility to MLM companies.
Waymee,
I wasn't trying to impress you with Golf Touring Pro's. Sorry if I was misleading.
These are Top Golf Business People. And if you do searches on them, you'll see what I mean. Some are associated with leaders in Nike, Top Flite, Callaway, Golf Illustrated and more and more. They are "In" with this Network.
These people just became members in my downline, which creates an opportunity for anyone who values positioning.
I'm merely pointing out a Positioning opportunity for anyone who is thinking about joining Oasis.
You can join someone else in Oasis and not have this network.
My Team, just happens to be heavily involved in the Golf Industry, which is a very lucrative segment.
I agree, Touring Professionals doesn't necessarily mean "credibility".
If you want a list a Golf Touring Pro's that take Oasis Products go to my site ; http://www.oasis4golf.com/site/index.asp?DL=114496&page=100019
You'll also see what my team (not, all of Oasis) are doing.
Imran,
You ask, "How do I find out if Oasis is Good?.,"
You're doing it right now, You are asking questions.
Just keep asking questions, and make an informed decision.
I mentioned the FDA and some of their "fallacies", Because some people treat Allegations by the FDA, as absolute truth.
And judging any Natural Health company based on the FDA's allegations and a settlement, is not necessarily fair.
I do not believe the FDA is evil. I do believe that some of their agents line their pockets from Pharmaceutical companies.
Oops, I should say, the leadership of the FDA, not the agents. The leadership are politicians, and if anyone doesn't believe that the leadership of the FDA are not being lobbied contantly by the pharmaceutical companies, then they are being naive.
And of course FDA agents get their directives from the Leadership.
And if anyone, doesn't believe this either. Ask yourself, "Why Can't a Natural Health Remedy, claim it benefits a disease.?
Do you believe that Nothing God or Nature created can help a Disease. This is absurd.
All claims to help a disease, has to be spoken "under the table" with Natural Health Companies.
If you were to go to your mother and tell her that Glucosomine, MSM, Chondroitin, CMO, and others will help her Arthritis, you would be breaking the FDA's Laws...Even though you can go right now to pubmed.com (The National Library of Medicine) and do a search for studies on these natural ingredients and you'll find that it is proven.
In fact ,this would be a good answer for your question about Oasis being Good and how to find out...
Since everything Oasis uses is based on these Scientific Studies, Take any of Oasis' products and search the studies for the ingredients.
This will show you, and you don't have to believe anything I say. , But you'll see that Oasis is based on Science and not Folklore and does help diseases, ooops, Shhhhhh! I can't say that.
Hopefully I'm not a big enough threat to them. lol.
Scott Smith,
What you're saying concerns me greatly. I'll be forwarding this information to the FTC and the FDA as well as Stephen Cherniske.
Thanks
Eric,
What Concerns You?
Scott, do you know where the term "snake oil" comes from?
The reason for the regulation of what the natural suplement companies can claim is a long history of making false claims.
vm,
I agree with you. The reason the FDA started the regulations is because of the "Snake Oils" in the 1800's and 1900's.
But Science has improved so much that a Natural Health Company that actually tests their ingredients, still can not make any claims. Even the ones that test thier ingredients all they way down to the "Gene" level, like Oasis.
My problem with this, is it makes the general public believe that nothing can help, treat, or cure any serious conditions but some synthetic drug.
Which gets me back to the premise of this discussion. It was implied that Oasis was somehow less credible because of the FDA settlement. And I'm asking you to take a further look into the matter and not make judgements without looking further.
I'm also asking you to look at the possibility that the FDA, and FTC's leadership were lobbied by the pharmaceutical companies to pass those laws in the first place.
Do you really think that the FTC and FDA spent millions of dollars to go after the Natural Health Companies because their was a "Snake Oil" epidemic? Did you read any headlines that read "Snake Oils are killing thousands a year, FDA and FTC Cracks Down".
That's not what happened. What happened was that a few companies became able to test ingredients just like the Pharmaceutical Companies. This creates a threat to the pharmaceutical industry. You can believe this or not, but I'm asking you to take a look.
Let me throw some facts out at you. Over 5000 people died from taking Asperin last year. They died from hemmoraging. Do you see the FDA, FTC going after Asperin Companies? Over a 150,000 die every year from Side Effects. Thousands more die from improper dosages and Hospital error. Where's the FDA and FTC? This should be an outrage.
They allow the Drug companies to Disclaim on their commercials in such a mundane way that the public believes that it won't happen to them.
The FDA should make these commercials shout at the end of these commercials:
YOU CAN DIE FROM TAKING THIS! and SOME OF YOU WILL!
So the idea that the FDA and FTC are just protecting us from "Snake Oils" is a distraction from the truth. You may be able to change my mind if you show me that "Snake Oils", routinely kill thousands of people every year.
If that were true, why did they happen to Crack Down as soon as the Natural Health Arena began "testing" with the same capabilities as the Drug Companies?
I could go on and on with this subject, but it appears someone wants to shut me up as well on this forum. If you will allow me, I will answer your questions about Oasis.
Just because I provoke thought on the subject, which I repeatedly have said that you don't have to agree with, shouldn't cause me to get gagged. I thought the purpose of a blog was to keep that from happening.
I beleive in you forming your own opinions, and healthy, intelligent debates. To me that's how you learn on a subject. If not, I guess I'm on the wrong blog.
Or do you want to hear something like this:
"Oasis is Irresponsible, They Suck, Their Products are No Good, They Lied, They don't deserve to be in Business, Good for the FDA, They Got 'em, he he!"...
If that is what you want to hear, then I would check your motives, because this is not true.
Maybe some of you are in another MLM, and you don't want Oasis to be Successful. If that is true, fine, I can understand that a little. But I'm not trying to compare Oasis to anyone... I was merely commenting on the premise, which was about Oasis Lifesceineces.
Hey scott,
Ever hear of EGCG? Prosiblly sold by your line as a green tea extract. Some said it cures cancer. I take that and treat COS-1 cells with it in the lab and I get some weird effect, it turns out that some weird unknown polymerization reaction is occuring and when I remove my cells from culture, they look like eraser shavings when they should be little white specks... When that compound is used in low levels, it appears to have anti-oxident activity, when in high concentrations it seems to INDUCE many cancers. Do you see the necessity of the FDA to oversee biological research? I think you are reading too much conspiracy theory material.
Science is not cut and dry. Did you know that the Toxicology series to teach the comprehensive subject is over 14 volumes large and still growing? There is a lot of things out there.
Go and look up Glucosamine on Pubmed if you want. You will find pros and cons...point: We have no idea WHAT is going on.
X
X
I can't let the idea that a government agency like the FDA is necessary go without comment. One of the key ideas of Public Choice theory is that due to the way in which government bureaucracies function, they almost never act out of a desire to advance the public interest (whatever that vague term is supposed to mean). The FDA often drags its heels when evaluating drugs because of incentives. If the FDA approves some drug which turns out to be dangerous, killing say 1000 people it looks really bad. If it holds up production on a potentially life saving drug, and as a result of this inaction 10,000 people die, no one will blame them. A much better solution to this would be for market institutions to emerge which would monitor drug safety, the same way UL or Consumer Reports evaluate other products. When people feel that the government is there to protect them they are more likely to assume that because something isn't illegal, it must be safe. If there were no FDA, people would be more inclined to investigate product claims themselves, or to trust one's that have been approved by reputable private agencies. This actually is related to the idea of Quixtar being FCC approved, people are inclined to believe that because Q is not being prosecuted it must be entirely on the up and up. We don't need a government agency to protect us we need the institutions that arise from a free and unhampered market
Clearly you know nothing about Toxicology. There is a lot more at stake than you think. Please do a little bit of solid research.
I don't doubt that there are grave implications, that is precisely the point, Government is ineffective at everything it does, it is built for failure, it is impossible to design a government that works. As such it should not be put in charge of something so serious. A free society would carry risks, but only in such a society are people truly able to make informed decisions.
I fail to agree with you that the problem with pharmaceuticals. The problem is the time and expense involved in research. Do you know how long it takes to do research or how much it cost for that matter? The government agency is not as bad as you seem to be making it out to be. Are there problems? yes, but they are not the Bane of the World!
Anyone else want to chime in?
I think you both have good points,
I understand that research is very important, toxicology is very important, Medicine based on science is important.
There are a lot of good Biologists and Scientists out there trying to do good.
But that is not my point. My point is that the FDA and FTC allow the pharmaceutical industry to influence the laws they make. And they squash any new discoveries that come from the Natural Health industry.
The FDA and FTC are not allowing "any", "zero", "zilch"claims by the Natural Health Industry, when it comes to disease. And they are doing this even though the Natural Health Industry are starting to use the same qualified Scientists Now, research, and millions of dollars.
Oasis has over 16 phd's, probablly more now, two Genomics Labs, many scientists and biologists on the payroll. But every time they discover something that helps "diseases". They have to use words like "May Help", "Could Possibly", "Might Improve".
Give me a good reason why they do this besides that they are protecting us from "Snake Oil" advocates, which don't kill anyone.
This leads me to agree with Frankenberry, in that, they are not doing it for the Good Of Man, Country or whatever term you want to use.
They are definitley not doing it to protect you or me.
All they would have to do is establish a fair set of rules for both industries. But no, they passed laws, that virtually says, "There is nothing in God's Natural World, that can help your disease and if you claim that it does, we are going to come after you, Oh and by the way, the reason is, because we don't want a bunch of foolish people taking "snake oil". We can't have that. OH and also, if you find a valid discovery that costs you millions of dollars, we want you to apply for a "drug license" and pay us millions, and we might classify it as a "drug". Then we'll let you make some claims."
I'm not arguing against science. And I do not believe in a conspiracy. Unless you're saying that when a pharmaceutical company lobbies the congress, FDA, and FTC to pass bills in their favor, then vigorously goes out and enforces them, is a conspiracy. Then I'm a conspiracy nut.
And when I say "lobby", it usually comes in the form of some type of "payoff". Whether it be votes for re-election, campaign contributions, tax free vacations, and on and on.
And if you don't believe this goes on...Open your eyes, this is what goes on every day in America.
The reason no one has done anything about this, is because No one has been able to match the pharmaceutical's "bribes". oooooh, is that too tough a word. Excuse me, but let's call it for what it is.
The only reason this issue is even noticeble, is people are finally starting to wake up.
You are only going to see more and more of the Pharmaceutical Companies Commercials that say, "Do you have Itchy Nose Disease? Tell your Doctor to subsribe "Ivaitchynose",... lol. and of course their disclaimer, may cause burning sensations, runny nose, death, nightime sweats, sexual dysfunction, heat rash, and the occaisional desire to speak your mind without retribution. lol.
Have a good day, but you gotta laugh sometimes.
X
I am fully aware of the costs associated with R&D, I also know that it can take more than a deacde to get a drug from the beginning of the process to the point where it is ready for clinical trials, sometimes far more than a decade, I know all about the research dead ends, in effect it costs hundreds of millions of dollars to develop a new drug. I also agree that the overwhelming majority of "alternative medicine" is nothing but quackery and fraud, I sure wouldn't see a homeopathic practicioner, and I would trust real pharmeceuticals a lot more than some herbal treatment. My argument is that we should be very wary of involving the state in our lives, seeking to have it solve our problems and assume the responsibilities that we should bear ourselves. Where the state steps in the bonds of civil society break, you name a problem and you can find a way in which the state either created the problem or made it worse.
Basically I agree with you that it is highly irresponsible to try to develop "medicines" without doing the incredible amount of research necessary, I just think these standards can better be upheld in the free market.
When it is in the free market, the same frauds and scadals that occur on other matters will boil over into this matter as well. In my opinion, that will be far worse.
Scott,
List me one of your snake oils that you say cures things. Let me have a stab at it.
X
I'm not saying Oasis Products "cures"anything. But neither do the Drugs.
The Difference is, The pharmaceutical company can say they "treat", "help" Arthritis and other diseases.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying... Natural Health Companies Cannot make "any claims" about a disease. They cannot use vitually any term and the name of a disease in the same phrase. No matter what amount of Science is performed.
Do you not understand the monopoly this creates?
You keep taking things to one extreme or the other. There's always exceptions.
There's going to be Natural Products that could harm you. Nothing compared to the Drugs, though.
How can I get you to understand that the FDA and FTC are Gagging the Natural Health Industry, even though they are beginning to doing the same Science?
True, most natural companies do not have the money, science, etc. and should not be able to make any claims without the science.
But Oasis has the Science. They are doing the Tests. But they are still being gagged.
Give me a good reason, why?. I'm saying the reason is because of the Money that the FDA and FTC gets from the Pharmaceutical companies.
You were, or are saying that it is to protect the General Public. I'm saying that is B.S.
I'm also saying that because of this, there are going to be more and more drugs created, and more and more diseases created. And this is going to cause more and more people to die from the side effects. And until people realize the Deaths that are happening because of this,.. it's going to continue.
Coporate Pharmaceutical Companies and their leadership have to make a profit. If they don't, they will get FIRED by their shareholders. So they keep drowning us with their Drugs and BS. And we keep believing it.
And you evidently believe their is no harm being done, or you believe that the Natural Health Industry and their "Snake Oils" are a bigger threat. Hogwash!
Everytime I see a new commercial, with another drug, claiming to treat some new Disease, I want to throw something at the TV.
The FDA, FTC, and Pharmaceutical Copanies are Saving People...I acknowledge this,
But their Kill Ratio, is unacceptable.
A plane might go down tomorrow, god forbid, and kill 450 people. The public will be upset, The federal Aviation agencies and safety agencies(I don't recall the Accronyms, right now) will scramble and try to solve and prevent this from happening again.
Well 450 people will die tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after, from some form of a drug side effect. There will be no inquiry, the FDA, FTC, are not going to scramble. You will however see 1 out of 4 commercials advertising another drug, with potential lethal side effects. And the public will believe that there is no harm in taking them.
Where are your scientists publishing? Is their work peer reviewed, corporation pressure, prejudiced, or any combination of those? Let me see th preclinical work, animal model studies, clinical, and chronic toxicological studies.
The Solution to this would be to create a Federal Agency that regulates the Natural Health Industry, and the Pharmaceutical Industry, and make it illegal for them to be influenced, supported, and contributed to, by anything of value, from anyone.
I think the I.R.S. works in this way, but I'm not sure.
This "ideal agency" would be for the good of the people, not biased, and New Discoveries could come from both industries.
Will it happen?... I doubt it.
Let me give you another example of this Idea:
Karsten Golf, or Ping. If you are a golfer, you'll know who I'm talking about,
will not make a "new" club just for the sake a making a "new" golf club to make a profit. Their decisions are based on entirely on "Improving the Game of Golf".
The other Golf Companies, will come out with a New Golf Club every year, and convince you that it will "cure" your golf game.
And guess what, these companies are led by corporate heads that must increase profits in order to keep their jobs just like the pharmaceutical companies.
Ping on the other hand, is led by a family, that was will not fall in this Trap. Why? Because the founding father, instilled in his kids, to base all their decisions on the improvement of the game of golf, not profit.
The pharmaceutical companies are driven purely on profit. They don't care that their new "wonder drug" might kill people.
And when they find out that one of thier drugs can and is killing people. They go into "Damage Control" mode. And they do it with all the Advertising Power they have now.
Let me ask you this, "Why don't you ever see a Natural Remedy commercial anymore? Is it because the Natural Health Industry don't want to advertise? No.
Is it because they can't afford it?
No..
Is it because the Pharmaceutical Companies will threaten to take their advertising dollars to another Network? Bingo... Do you see what is happening here.
Oh and I forgot, there are some commercials that do get aired now,... you know, the ones that look, and are labeled like a drug, are real expensive. Well, guess who bought and own these companies? No..., it couldn't be could it.
Go find out.
Oasis is not a publicly traded co. They are not profit driven. Their Philosophy, is the same as Ping's.
"For the Good of Mankind" is their logo.
If they ever go public, I'll probablly quit. Which is another misunderstood conception by the American People. We seem to think that if you are not a publicly traded company driven by profit, you are not "credible"... If you feel this way, I hope you may re-think that idea.
Have a Great Day!
For the Science
Go to: http://www.unigenpharma.com/home.html
This is Oasis's Sister Company, that does all the Testing on Natural Plants, etc.
You can also go to:
OasisDr.com for the Science. You have to have some form of medical licence to get in. Which it sounds like you do.
Let me know if you can't get in, or something, and I'll have Oasis Send the info. to you.
Also,
Those guys, Bo Short, and Ty Tribble (I don't know them yet) that use to be involved in Quixtar, started Passport, and now is moving Passport into Oasis Lifesciences, just toured the Oasis Facilities and Labs, etc.
He said he was going to Blog the Event, and Pictures, etc... starting today 12-10-05
http://mlmblog.typepad.com/blog/
My contact info. just in case you are interested in my team. is:
Scott Smith
scott-oasis@cox.net
or scottsmith24@cox.net
You can also go to PubMed.com and look up Unigen . If you go back to 2002, they would be under the name Univera.
This should give you the studies you are looking for.
Hello All,
The problem I see is the conflict still exists between captialism and health care. I went to one of these Oasis luncheons on the premis that a friend was inviting me to lunch. Low and behold I am at a MLM meeting with food. I was invited because of my background in Nutrition as a Dietician. The fast talking MD touted himself as a know all and the implication was the Oasis products are a cure-all. Though the MD did not use these words, his examples and testimony implied curing where pharmaceuticals couldn't or had many side effects.
My problem with this topic is financial gain over wellness. To me there is a direct conflict of interest. Attending a "luncheon" to tout a great product for sale and then being sold on how much money can be made from the product doesn't sit well with me. I have taken the "gifted" product (Oasis buzz word) for one week so far and feel no different. I am going to buy a mont supply @$40 to check it out, but I am skeptical at best.
At quick glance you will notice the ingredients so several of the products are already sold in Costco, health "type" stores, etc. For example, their joint pain relief tablets called "Regincare" contain mostly Chondriton and Glucosamine which my father has been taking for years through the VA Hospital and Costco! So give it a new name, fancy label and sell via MLM and you make a bunch of $$$. I guess you can call this capitalism or unethical, depending on your viewpoint.
My colleagues and I always joked, "Do you want to make a million bucks? Write a diet book or invent a nutrional product!".
It smells like snake oil to me!
Is this company like WIN, Wellness International Network? Sounds like it.
i work at oasis and they are doing a great thing, and just cause the are a MLM dosent mean you shoudnt give them credit for try to help make the world a better place. every one has those opion and i bet yours would be diffrent if you were trying to help a loved one and the only product that worked was ours!
What about hearing from those of you that actually take the oasis products. Do they work. I started with Nutrilite products because they were all-natural and I definitely feel a difference in energy and stamina. Does anyone have similiar or contrary information on Oasis? There's nothing wrong with the business if the product works, is reasonably priced and creates an income stream for entrepreneurs.
The Difference Between Oasis' Regenicare and the Store Brand Glusomines, MSM, etc..
The difference between Oasis Regenicare and Something you can get at your Local Drug Store is this:
A few years ago, it was discovered that people were having different responses to Glucosamine, MSM, Choindroitin, CMO, etc.
These are repair Nutrients that you can find at your Local Drugstrore, Sam's, etc...
Anyway, it was shown that the Reason People sometimes didn't experience relief was the Inflammation around the effected area that kept the Glucosomine, etc. from doing it's job.
So Oasis addressed the Inflammation problem. They Started testing over 1500 botanicals that were thought to address inflammation. After several years of testing, they finally narrowed it down to three botanicals that addressed inflammation the best. Hence, the award winning ingredient Protectin.. which is included in Regenicare. Protectin even out performed several of the NSAIDS etc.. in test..
So now you have all the Glucosomine, Etc. but also Protectin which addresses the Inflammation but with no side effects.
So this is the Big difference, and you can't get this anywhere else. And this is why so many people are experienceing relief now.
Contact me if you are interested in Oasis, or any of it's products...And I will tell you everything I know to help you make a wise decision.
Scott Smith
scottsmith24@cox.net
Just a thought on: MLM vs. Conventional Marketing...
Just keep in mind when someone invites you to a MLM meeting, luncheon, etc..
They are just trying to make you aware of a new discovery, product, etc. that you otherwise might not ever knew existed...
Some products are introduced via TV, Newspapers etc... Some are introuduced through Networking.
Unfortunately because the American People have certains Brands branded in our minds so deeply, the only way some companies can get a new products to be even considered is through Network Marketing.
They're all just new products, concepts, or ideas...whether they come from the TV, or from a Meeting..
If you like the product, concept, etc.. MLM just offers you a chance to get paid when you tell your friends about it..
And if you don't like the product, some companies like Oasis, will give you all your money back...
And if you feel it was just "Snake Oil" they'll give you your money back for that as well...
But believe me it's not "Snake Oil"..
Oasis has a new product that's coming out that is all the Essential Vitamins and Essential Oils (never been done before)
and is 100% absorbable, it doesn't even have to be digested or go to the Liver...
So anyone can get 100% of their daily nutritional needs in a liquid drink that's about 86 calories.
Think of the Weight Loss that this will generate, the People in Nursing Homes that will be helped, The Marathon Runners, and atheletes, your kids that are eating junk in the morning can get real nutrition now, in seconds, etc...
Now is the time to join us, if you are thinking of getting in on something that is real..All you have to do is try and be open minded and realize:
The Science is now here for Natural Products, and Oasis is making new discoveries all the time.. These Botanicals could not be looked at this way until now.
These are not "Snake Oils"-
Scott Smith
scottsmith24@cox.net
I put my faith in results! I've used the products, and they work. I was in extream joint discomfort due to severe arthritus, and on potent pain drugs prescribed by my doctor, which had terrible side effects and made a zombie of me. I stumbled due to being unstable because of blown out knees with calsification and bone spurs, extream discomfort and super sensitivity, and as a result injured my back and right shoulder. After two weeks on OASIS products I felt more positive, no discomfort anymore, so I was able to get off my pain meds, my shoulder didn't hurt, plus I regained my full range of motion again on my shoulder, also my back dosen't hurt anymore, I feel better, sleep better, and have a sense of well being. Pretty good snake oil. For all the negative garbage on hearsay, I say prove it to yourself and see if natural science research at the DNA level doesn't blow holes throught alopathic medicine. Experience it before you pass judgement, then learn about it! It makes perfect sense. I do know what my body tells me, and you can too! Hooray for OASIS Life Sciences! A satisfied, and better for it user of the miraculas new proteomic science of natural health. Bill Warren, Hillsboro,Oregon.
Hello,
I've just launched an Oasis Lifesciences Forum, that you can read, ask questions etc..This site is not affiliated with Oasis, it's just a place where you can get honest answers.
http://bestmlmcompany.net/
Take a look, Ask Questions, etc.
Scott Smith
Information is key in all things. Educate, inform, research and consult doctors. In all things there are pros and cons. Regenicare, this product has been proven to help people in testimonials and results in clinical testing with there doctors. Now whether the FDA or pharmaceutical companies agree, that is a fight they may or may not win. Who am I or you to say. Be it if it works for a large majority of people who use it and there are no side effects from it. Let them be in there health. All companies private public or government have there own agenda. that is how money motivates. The greater good may not always be the most obvious path. Drugs these days are helpful and detrimental. You can no longer deny that. VIOXX is only one example. The FDA approved it. Hell to put it on a lighter note, THE APPROVED OLESTRA... So please tell me in this whole ordeal who is INFALLIBLE...?
No matter what happens it is humans that run the companies and make the rules.. So no matter when mistakes are made and I hope, addressed and fixed.. that is all I can ask for.
Hello, Greg and Pat this is Sarah Gallagher, I use to be in the business, Susan Geraghty is my mother, and we were both in Clyde and Vickies group, what an unfortunate matter, however nice to see you guys are doing well, and take care.
Responding to several of the negative blogs posted. I Was involved in a high profile career on Wall Street for over 14 years most recently with UBS the largest private bank in the world for the last four years of my career. Throughout my career I have seen the best and the worst of both public and private companies. I can state with clear conviction that I have never seen such an incredible opportunity presented to anyone that has a good work ethic, a high level of integrity, as well as a great heart to share the best of nature with all of mankind.
I will let you know what I base these conclusions on. I am not suggesting that anyone needs to do what I did before dedicating my life to this company but I will share my due diligence. I personally spent over $30,000 flying coach to travel to every small or large Oasis life sciences at the time event all around this great country on six different multi city trips. I have seen thousands of people and I have personally spoken with hundreds that have had truly remarkable experiences with these products. We are a natural products company and make no claims for the treatment or cure of any specific disease states however the results expressed to me by others, the way that I feel and the way at least 75 of the almost 600 people that have been introduced to these products in my network feel has been incredibly life altering in a very positive way.
We changed the name to Univera Life Sciences as part of a global branding effort for two main reasons. First is that Oasis is very generic and not a name that a company can have exclusive right to use. We own Univera as our global brand meaning “One Truth” in Latin. Second, Oasis did not translate well into all of the 15 countries we will expand into in the next 5 years.
In direct response to the criticism of Stephen Cherniske I must just state that the critics have obviously never met the man and that is a shame for them. If they did take the time to meet the man, you could not possibly put anything negative into print. I have met some of the most wonderful and high profile people in the world and anyone of them would be blessed to call Stephen a friend. I call Stephen at 58 years young “Peter Pan with the most incredible cerebral intellects I have ever encountered” as well a man that has a great balance of heart complimented with incredible speaking skills to relate these complex issues of natural biochemistry to the average person. Behind the man is his wonderful wife Deborah and four incredible children. So please “Know” what you are talking about before you make comment. Enough said: Onward.
The company itself has a triple threat in terms of how significant the structure is. Number one is our incredible philanthropic owner in Bill Lee. Part of the world Economic Forum and one of the 50 wealthiest Asians in the world. I have met this man and he is Buddha without the waistline. He does things for mankind because he can and does not seek the publicity most people in his position crave. Hundreds of Millions of dollars of his assets have been spent starting with his father Yunho Lee over 30 years ago to put in place the mission of bringing the best of nature to all of mankind which with the addition of Univera in the last 7 years completes a global network of companies 8 in count called the Econet there is also no debt on these companies. This moves our network toward true Vertical integration that few companies can claim in any industry. We are not a reseller of products we take them from our farms to your family owning every step along the way.
Next the management team. A true who’s who of corporate America. I will touch on two in particular. Stuart Ochiltree the man at the helm of Avon during their rise from 400 million in sales to over 4.5 Billion. What most people don’t know is that Stuart started with Avon when they were 73 years into their business. He retired from that position by the time he was 49. Not one of these top leaders in the company came to this mission because they need to work and ask yourself why would Stuart Ochiltree come out of retirement to get involved with a small start up Biotech Company after building the largest direct sales company in the world. Well, it was not for money it was for Purpose. This will be Stuart’s greatest legacy. Avon was his warm up. The compliment of his beautiful wife Linda much of the time by his side completes him and it shows and he shares who he is, very rare in corporate world. God bless all you critics but watch us over the next 5 years and well beyond my lifetime because we are destined to be the biggest and the best the world has ever seen helping millions of people along the way.
The Second corporate leader I will bring up is a man who joined the company within days of my joining, November 12, 2005. His name is Rich Razgaitis. With a laundry list of incredible accomplishments within his young career with companies like Johnson and Johnson and Eli Lilly. Rich is an incredible human being and it is my personal belief that he will lead this company when Stuart feels his time to step down will come. He moved his wife Erica and two small girls across the country to be a part of this great company and again they have become great friends to my wife Valerie and myself. Where do you see this in the world today? Well, it is here so be a part or just wish us well but know what you are talking about before you criticize a great mission. The servant leadership that is displayed by Stuart is the greatest example of integrity and walking your talk I have ever seen in my life. I value the friendship of these men and respect the hell out of them and am further proud to be associated with them.
Lastly in terms of Management and Opportunity it is true that our presents in New England is almost non-existent. But with about 40 million people in the North East, watch us because I believe in terms of opportunity we are not ground floor but subterranean at this point but I believe we will fill Madison Square garden to capacity with a national convention within the next 5 to 6 years.
The last part of the triple threat is our science and products. We employ over 50 full time scientist’s on two continents that are doing Genomic and Proteomic testing on natural products 24 hrs per day 5 days a week for the last 7 years. This is unprecedented. We have over 100,000 sf of state of the art lab space housing 2 of the 35 labs of this type in the world and ours are the only two that are dedicated exclusively to Natural products. As an intellectual property this means we own the largest functioning medicinal plant library in the World. We do double blind; placebo controlled independent human clinical trials on some of our products not because we have to but because it is the right thing to do to take a leadership role in cleaning up the natural products industry. I think this is more than enough to justify why someone might want to start a business for $1175 and make this there future. The company even offers a money back guarantee on the business and a lifetime guarantee on the products to customers. Tell me what else would you want? My wife has now left her teaching career of Autistic children at Greenwich High School and we have dedicate ourselves to this mission to build a legacy for our family and for future generations and I could not be more proud of our decision.
wow mike you nailed it.Univera has been the second greatest thing that has ever happened to me.The blessing of my health and the financial bennies are without question the best opportunity in America presently. Show me another business in the natural products arena that have these resources!
Wow, you want a company that is on the move and that has a better pay plan and a customized product line. Your own web portal that has partnered up with GOOGLE itself. Is the best in the product brokerage companies and has the best pay plan out of any company in the market. I was part of Oasis......I met all the men your talking about.....It impressed me very much but when it came down to it it wasnt up to par.....a man walked into my facility one day and he said to me "do you know what the 2006 game trainer are gving ther clients?" Isotonic suppliments! Look into it! Tell me 5 Dr. offices that carry this product and reccomend it to their clients. Look into Nurti Metrix this is can only be distributed by health professionals and they are part of my network. Does your company have genetic testing? Can they custom make a suppliment to meet a individuals needs based on their DNA? Do your health professional recieve CEU for taking courses on your products? (if you don't know what a CEU is then you shouldn't be selling health products to the public!) Can your company pay you on what is sold on the internet and thats not off your products but lets say TARGET, AMAZON.COM, GAP, MACY'S Mine does up to 2% of everything baught I get to keep just by them shopping thru my web portal. Do your pay plan pay you BV 100% with no expiration date with out any levels and pay you for everyone under you no matter how far it goes? If you make all your own products then you do all your own testing and quality control TRUE? We have scientist make our line however we will fire that company and hire a better one if our quality control finds that they are not meeting our standards! How about yours? I could go on but you see you already think that you have the best when other like myself have the best leverage plan on the market and are laughing at how hard you have to work to SIGN someone up! We dont sign people up we regester then with their own unfranchise and have continuing education units to follow up with to make sure that only the best are out there selling quality products. One size does not fit all and when did it become okay to put over 30grams of sugar in a product and call it a vitamin suppliment? What Dr. would ever reccomended that to a client? How about a weight management program designed by a leading Dr. that was published in the american journal of science that it is better then Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, atkins and many more....WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM! and we have the trainings to help people become leaders to teach others.
Look us up we are "MARKET AMERICA" WE JUST JOINED UP WITH GOOGLE. They were at our meeting and wanted in on what we have. Now that is POWERFUL!!!!
See a rep look over the plan....Stay with Oasis, it's all good but you asked if there was anything better!
So does this mean that Bo has been lured to the darkside?
Posted by: Joecool18 | December 6, 2005 7:31 PM