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October 4, 2005
Extreme Team Linking
By QBlog in A/QMOs
Someone recently added a couple of comments to my Extreme
Freedom! post requesting demanding that I remove a link
to the Extreme Freedom Team website.
The person making the request demand uses the names Freedom1
Fighter, John, TJ, and Janet. The most recent comment was made after I pointed
out that my post did not criticize or endorse the Extreme
Freedom Team.
freedom1fighter: Once gain please remove the Extreme Freedom Team link and webpage posting from your site and the public internet. We have not done anything to warrant this traffic and link to your site.
The link is not to be posted on your site and the author has not given you permissions to duplicate this. We would thank you for this. One again we are sorry for your experience with other Teams involved with similar model but not the same as ours.
Please respect this and take your issues and concerns and post them about your personal experience with the team you were involved with. Extreme Freedom Team handles issues and addresses them appropriately while helping to improve anything that needs fixing so we can empower people to succeed in life. Please understand this.
Seal Team 9
What the hell is "Seal Team 9?"
Anyway, obviously someone doesn't understand how the Internet works so I've developed a global strategy that will teach Freedom1 Fighter (and friends) a valuable lesson about hyperlinking. I call that strategy Extreme Team Linking!
What Is Extreme Team Linking?
Well, it's really pretty simple. If you have a website, blog or forum, just
prominently post a link to the Extreme
Freedom Team website. If you aren't sure how to link, just use the html
below.
Or, you can use this stylish linking graphic. Isn't it cute?
If you're not sure how to post the graphic just copy the html below. And I'll even host the image!
The most important part of the Extreme Team Linking campaign is your participation. If you don't participate, nobody learns nothin'. And everyone who participates will have their site listed in the official Extreme Team Linking Wall of Fame!
Extreme Team Linking Wall of Fame
This is the official list of Extreme Team Linking participants. If you want
your website on this list just put a link to the Extreme
Freedom Team prominently on your website and send me an email alert (or
comment) with a link to your site. The link to your site will remain on the Wall
of Fame as long as your site links to Extreme
Freedom Team.
- Quixtar BLOG
- Quixtar Sucks
- AmQuix In and Out
- Standing Order Tape
- Rocket's Rants
- MLM Blog
- LawBlawg
- Instant Franchise
- Quixtar Demons
- Sinking in Quixand
- An Outsider in Saul Alinsky's World
- MODE
- A Day in My Life
Comments
They are driving me bananas. What is wrong with them? You didn't say anything negative about them, infact any thing at all, other than "Extreme Freedom". If they are doing so good, why are they so mad about getting a link?
They should be thanking for the traffic, no?
Lets write a Wikipedia entry on them too! Oh that will give them shit loads of traffic. And whole wilipedia community will be talking about them.
Lets do som whois from AllWhois.com and see who is behind that domain.
Let the fun begin.
Linked.
But for some reason my urlta cool graphical link is not showing up. I'll have to work on it.
OK, all linked. I'm not too savy with all the web language yet, but they do have a link on Rocket's Rantings.
If someone could check it out, I'd appreciate the feedback to make sure I did what I was supposed to.
It's an interesting site, possibly worthy of one of Rocket's Rants.
From the videos on the ExtremeFreedom site, u can be easily figure out the team before the Winter season :)
Standing Order Tape has displayed the link to show everyone what your hard earned tool money buys for the king pins
X
OK, it is linked and working fine. I am wondering though if maybe Seal Team 9 did this expecting you to link it even more? What if they are using PsyOps against you? Or maybe I am just reading waaaayy too far into this.
Oops. I screwed up.
Everyone using the linking GRAPHIC needs to update their HTML. I forgot that I don't allow hotlinking (linking of graphics on other sites) from the webraw.com domain. I've moved the graphic to another domain. Please use that.
Again, UPDATE your graphic links please. Thank you.
B31,
I think you are reading way to far into this.
The Kingpins save these things for those already in. This is like the old "profiles of success" videos; not for prospects because the prospects will view it as materialistic. We will know for sure if they password protect it.
It's linked.
Qblog,
It's linked on my blog.
Imran,
The point of all this linking is it creates more bandwidth so that it will overload the servers and possibly fry the server. I've heard Rush Limbaugh try this with several websites. At the very least, if it doesn't fry the server, they will get so much more traffic that the bandwidth gets extremely expensive. They will ulitmately have to password protect it. At least they haven't figured out google adsense yet as that would defeat qblog's purpose and they would make even more money...
You can't "fry" a server via excess traffic. And not all sites are set up on a charge-per-bandwith basis. The ET server could be set up with a flat fee, in which case use of bandwith wouldn't cost them a penny.
Linking to a site also does nothing to bandwith - you need to repeatedly access the site and get content (web pages, images, video) forcing the server to use bandwith to send them to you.
Requesting content from a site in order to fill its bandwith and make it unresponsive to requests is called a "Denial of Service attack", and most IT people (myself included) regard it as a slimy thing to do. Link to the ET site all you want, but start up a DoS attack and *your* ISP will probably shut you down for good.
Michael,
That is ABSOLUTELY NOT the reason for this campaign. I don't want anyone's servers overloaded and I really don't care if the site has Google Ads or any other money-making methods. If they make money, great!
My reason for Extreme Team Linking is exactly what I said, to teach Freedom1 Fighter a valuable lesson about the Internet. It's a public domain and one should not enter it unless one is willing to have the PUBLIC examine what is published.
That was the whole point of the old Don't Link To Us! website. The Extreme Linking Campaign is in that exact same spirit.
Think of it this way, you pay for a billboard and then tell everyone who looks at it to NOT look at it. What's more is you demand that people who tell their friends about the billboard to cease all discussions about the billboard. How crazy is that?
If you don't want people looking at a billboard, then don't put it up. If you don't want people looking at a website, then don't put it up.
I second SparcVark's comments. As I already stated, this is simply an effort to educate others about the Internet. There's NOTHING in my post or comments that would even remotely indicate that I support a Denial of Service Attack or anything similar. Anyone who maliciously performs such an attack should be publicly flogged.
Qblog,
I hear ya. Thank you for clarifying that.
I agree with sparcvark that DOS attacks are in extremely poor taste.
Seal Team
1:) THANK YOU:)
2:) THANK YOU:)
3:) THANK YOU:)
4:) THANK YOU:)
5:) THANK YOU:)
6:) THANK YOU:)
7:) THANK YOU:)
8:) THANK YOU:)
9:) THANK YOU:)
WakeSetter boat: $50,000
Breitling watch: $22,000
5kt Diamond ring for your wife $39,000
Donation to Red Cross: $XX,XXX
Having a bunch of negative sites post videos of what life's like when you build the business right: Priceless
Somethings money can't buy, for everything else, there's Qblog.
Good one, Tony,
Did all that come from selling soap or cassette tapes?
That 100,000 dollar bonus check will not fill the price tag of a $450,000 car. Don't try to tell me that Marcewicz made the majority of that from Quixtar.
How many people lost their homes for that car?
And please define why these sites are "negative".
Didn't mean to come across as accusing you, Qblog. Just thought things could use some clarification.
Looking at the site itself, it's awfully vulgar. Even the name, "Extreme Freedom Team", is almost embarassing. I assume the purpose is to fire up the troops, to suggest that they, too, can fulfill the crassest stereotypes of the tasteless noveau riche someday. I'd worry if I saw something like this from an outfit I was working for.
Hey Tony, way to put a positive spin on something that probably won't help your "business" out too much.
People seeking information on the Extreme Freedom Folks will see them for what they are, materialistic, and manipulating.
Just like the big free kids they are.
Except these free kids at heart are getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar more and more.
Free is a lot of things to a lot of people. Free speech will eventually jeopardize these folks' freedom.
Hey Tony, making money yet? Did you buy that Breitling watch or that boat? No? Didn't think so.
It's funny, Tony, when people criticize the methods that most lines of support and kingpins employ, you rebut "Well, *I* don't do this! My group doesn't do this!" and thereby pretend to have refuted all criticism.
However, when people cast doubt on the income claims that websites such as this give, you respond with "Well, kingpin so-and-so had a check for this much! And this other kingpin had a check this big!"
You gotta make a choice here, buddy. If you're gonna talk about yourself and your supposedly honest dealings with other IBOs, then don't use other kingpins' income claims whenever someone talks about your pathetic income. And if you're going to support the kingpins' income claims, then don't use yourself and your group as an example of ethical behavior, since you obviously don't make that kind of money.
Maybe there is a corelation between the unwanted links to extremefreedomteam and the weird posts about Larry Winters...hmnmmm
Hey Tony,
Affairs...(Bill Britt, Paul Miller and many more)
broken marriages
more in debt
Somethings Quixtar cant cover up and for everything else there is Q-blog and Amquix.info
Done and done. QBlog, I've linked it on http://quixtardemons.blogspot.com
Overnight this particular thread shot right up to 24 comments. I knew that Tony had to be involved with this somehow!
Tony, you are a marketing department's dream!
I guess the real question is why don't they want to be linked then, Tony?
If you think this is great for that site, then why don't they want to be linked?
You really don't know do you?
Crickets "Chirp".......again
WakeSetter boat: $more than US median income
Breitling watch: $a year at an ivy league college
5kt Diamond ring for your wife $she found out you're boinking your secretary, didn't she?
Donation to Red Cross: $won't tell ya, but it was a lot, belieeeeve me!
Being able to sleep at night knowing your downline is paying for you to have the life they dream of but never will: $Your immortal soul (call that priceless)
Seriously, either they think you're playing into their hands for some stoopid SLAPP suit, or they really think they've had you, driving traffic to their tacky site. Of course, all the referring sites will have made sure to point out what a piece of avarice-porn it is, won't they?
mlm' - I know! Like you said, without me this main blog site is dead. Without me and the occasional pro-Qx person coming on here, it really just looks like a bunch of people whining.
Hey mlm' - even as a critic, did you kinda like my little 'Mastercard' spoof. Do you think they'd wanna put that on a t-shirt? Man, that would sell at functions ;)
hey fake-dd, what 'weird posts' about Larry Winters are you refering too?
Oh, and I'm still waiting to see proof about these alleged affairs by Britt and Miller. But once again - I follow the principle not the person! I've never met Britt or Miller. Say something of significance. Broken marriages?, I've seen 1st hand testimonies about this business helping save peoples' marriages.
Hey DI, what are you talking about?
DI> It's funny, Tony, when people criticize the methods that most lines of support and kingpins employ, you rebut "Well, *I* don't do this! My group doesn't do this!"
T> yea, so what - when you people complain about how Your upline MADE you buy 5-7 CD's or called you a loser for not being on 'Kate, or tried to steal your group, etc. I DO say, not me or my group! Cause thats the truth!! So how does this website prove different?
DI> However, when people cast doubt on the income claims that websites such as this give..."
T> First of all this site makes NO income claims! It shows how some of the Emeralds and Diamonds on the Markiwicz/Winters team live! Thats really their cars, their homes- thats really them playing baseball @ a park Joe rented out, and thats really them snowmobiling at Yellowstone, and them at Peter Island.
DI>..when people cast doubt on the income claims that websites such as this give, you respond with "Well, kingpin so-and-so had a check for this much! And this other kingpin had a check this big!"
T> so whats your point DON? Have you not paid attention the Numerous times that I have said that I am on the Winters/Markiewicz team?? These are the Diamonds I'm talking about! So the claims I made about $100,000 months from Qx-only (and Proof I've shown) is Very valid.
DI> You gotta make a choice here, buddy. If you're gonna talk about yourself and your supposedly honest dealings with other IBOs,
T> shut your mouth right there you presumptuous pr*ck! I have never lied about my integrity or the honest dealing I've had with other IBOs!!
DI> then don't use other kingpins' income claims whenever someone talks about your pathetic income.
T> These Diamonds are in MY upline (some of them) - so I will talk about their Lifestyle when you bozos say it doesn't work and no one makes any money, except from tools! You're gd right I'm gonna show a 1 month Qx Diamond check for $120,000+ when some idiot says the only money is from tools! If you don't like it too bad!! So what if I'm not making $100,000 right now? At one point neither were ANY of those guys!
rocket>People seeking information on the Extreme Freedom Folks will see them for what they are, materialistic, and manipulating.
T> Only a shallow little critbot like you would see them as materialistic. How many times has it been said, its not about the money. Sure they make a lot of money and have alot of nice things, but Joe M also bought a house for his parents and also built a house for his inlaws! He also donates to lots of charities! So let me get this straight, just because you have nice things, that makes you materialistic?? Take your robe off you jack@ss! And I said that, cause thats what you are - a JACKA$$!
rocket> Except these free kids at heart are getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar more and more.
T> hows that genius? Cause they go on nice vacations - cause they rent out stadiums and play baseball, or have fun on Peter Island - with their kids!!
X>Did all that come from selling soap or cassette tapes?
T> all of what X? Well gee, lets think- there were a few clips from Peter Island - you get to go there all-expense paid from the corporation when you go Diamond. Hmm, Diamond is just having 6 platinums, no $$ from cd's or cassette tapes there!
The snow-mobile trip is for Emeralds and above... Emerald is just 3 platinums, nothing about CDs or cassettes there!
Pretty much shot you down there!!
I love when people say things like that "is all that from selling soap"? No, critbot, its from being in business, retailing a certain amount and buying things thru yourself, and then developing a team of people who do the samething! Get it?
X>That 100,000 dollar bonus check will not fill the price tag of a $450,000 car. Don't try to tell me that Marcewicz made the majority of that from Quixtar.
T> 1st of all X, Markiewicz's car was about $280,000. And that $100,000 check was Not from Joe, it was from 1 of his Downline Diamonds!! JOE is a DOUBLE DIAMOND! And even if Joe never made more than $100,000 in one month and even if his Modena was $400,000 - think about how much You make a month and how much Your car costs! If you make $5,000 a month and drive a $20,000 car... kinda the same ratio isn't it??
X, you just got shot down again! ;)
Ha, the only thing 'vulgar' is the stupidy of some of the critics here. Guys, seriously get over it.
rocket>I guess the real question is why don't they want to be linked then, Tony?
If you think this is great for that site, then why don't they want to be linked?
You really don't know do you?
T>LOL!!!! are you Serious?? You all frickin got played! Helloo, McFly?? Here you guys are blasting this business online, and IBOs are thinking "if only all those people visiting those sites could see some of the video clips of Peter Island & Hawaii trips, the baseball games, and all the other stuff these Emeralds & Diamonds do". So somebody says "hey don't link to us, and sells a good case" and then what happens? Qblog goes overboard and gets all you critbots (that say it doesn't work) to link to a site that shows that it does!!
(Define irony)
bistandard>5kt Diamond ring for your wife $she found out you're boinking your secretary, didn't she?
T> wrong again jack@ss, Jake Baker doesn't have a secretary, cause he ain't got no Job!!
MAN, what does that say about YOU that the only reason you'd buy your wife a $39,000 ring would be because you Cheated on her??
Maybe Jake bought it, because he loves her, wanted to do something exceptionally nice for her... and oh yea, because he had the money to do it!!
BAM!!
Hey Qblog - why don't you Really stick it to them, and have your site redirect to theirs for a whole month!! Man, would That piss them off!
LOL!!!!
Tony:
Yeah, I guess it was pretty clever, but I didn't take a liking to it as much as I did the "I got nuthin' for Christmas" one that you did last week.
Tony:
You've gotta come to the dark side man, you're too cool and have too much energy to be with "them" :-)
The pros' are messin' up your thinkin' man!
I propose a trade. Tony for ex-dd.
Tony,
I think part of what people are saying here is all the double standards or teaching that the diamonds do, that contrdict themselves. Here's a few examples:
Kingpins: Get out of debt
Kingspins: Ok to go in debt to finance a function or to buy tapes. It's an investment in your business.
Kingpins: (Bill Britt) I hate men who cheat on their wives (not an exact quote)
Kingspins: (Bill Britt) except if it's me or Paul Miller.
Kingpins: Live below your means
Kingspins: Unless you are a diamond.
(why should a diamond be exempt from what they are teaching?)
Kingpins: God should be #1 in your life
Kingspins: Unless you need to do something for your quixtar business.
Kingpins: We don't make money untl you do
Kingspins: Well, maybe we make a little.
Kingpins: All the money made from tools are channeled back into the business.
(old days before internet)
Kingspins: We make some money from tools, but not a lot. (now after the tools scam was uncovered)
Tony>hey fake-dd, what 'weird posts' about Larry Winters are you refering too?
TD>Tony, you'd know what ex-dd is talking about if you visited the forum once in a while.
Tony,
I've been lurking for quite a number of months, and I've noticed that you are a very angry person. You are always defending your upline and your upline's income. What about your own? How much ARE you making? How much are you spending per month on books, tapes and seminars? How many miles are you putting on your vehicle? How many hours of sleep are you getting per night? How much time are you spending with your kids? As a Pro-Quix defender, your arguments are useless until you can prove yourself to me.
Also, with all your ranting and swearing, why would anyone want to get into business with you? Hold your cards to your chest man, if you let your downline see your bad side, you may lose them. I left....
Tony, just answer this: do you vouch for your entire upline's honesty and integrity? Do you vouch that tool income does not make up a significant portion of their profits? Do you have any proof of the composition of their income other than some incidental checks?
Since you didn't understand me the first time, I'll explain it to you again. You and your close group may very well deal honestly with your recruits. I'll take your word for it. However, you got no authority to talk about your entire upline's income or integrity, because you have no way of knowing the whole spiel.
When other people talk about the widespread dishonesty and deception in Quixtar, the only way you counter is by talking of what you do in your own "business." If you're honest with yourself, then you'd see that the same concept applies in this case.
T>Only a shallow little critbot like you would see them as materialistic. How many times has it been said, its not about the money. Sure they make a lot of money and have alot of nice things
DI> Now, I have no problem with being materialistic. However, you cannot deny that that website is designed to appeal only to materialistic desires. "Look at how rich we are!" "Look at all the stuff we got!" "Look at what we can do because of our money!" That is the message of the website and it is inherently materialistic. It is designed to invoke envy and desire. I'm not saying that materialistic is bad, but you should stop trying to deny the obvious.
T> OL!!!! are you Serious?? You all frickin got played!
DI> Tony, relax with the KoolAid, OK? If you're telling me that those barely coherent posts on the other thread are actually part of a grand strategy, then you need to get your brain checked for major damage. I've seen people on mushrooms that had better logical reasoning than you do here.
MLM SCAM> I propose a trade. Tony for ex-dd.
LOL MLMSCAM, This is screamingly funny. :D :D :D
No offence ex-dd, you are a cool guy.
Speaking of trade between IBOs and Critics....yeah I'll take Tony over.......Jason, RMM.
I'd like to have bunch of passport folk too. Specially Ty. Guy likes wrestling and XBox :o I'd even trade joecool18 to get Ty. Joecool football picks are ......
I'd also like to have David Robison, but he is almost on our side any way.
Michael too. Give them who?
Michael> The point of all this linking is it creates more bandwidth so that it will overload the servers and possibly fry the server.
Imran> Fry multimedia eh!
Tony, I guess I was expecting too much from you when I believed you would be able to comprehend in your little ninja head the point I was making.
If you honestly believe that they are happy about being linked, then direct all of your prospects to that site. See what they think.
I dunno, maybe you really aren't too bright.
Tony,
Can you answer one simple question:
What post 9/01/99 registered IBO has gone diamond?
U sure you aint Q-rush?
Hey i was in more metting and around Larry then you will ever be. I hung out hiding in buildings with Joe and Alan when they were not even directs..Your cult babble doesnt impress me...
Come back in 2 years rookie.
MLMscam for Jim Reed
Hey Tony,
Here is a great link for you about your upline Bill Britt..he taught this to Paul as well
http://www.amquix.info/britt_separation.html
Imran>I'd even trade joecool18 to get Ty.
Joecool??? NO WAY JOSE!!!
Joe is a good friend of mine.
ex-dd:
Have you read Steven Hassan's book like I recommended to you?
Well, gee... my gf (we're not married yet) knows I love her without me throwing 39 kilobuck baubles at her, you know, in the important ways. Yanno, the statement (as satire) wouldn't have the bite it does except for the serious problem I have with the betrayal of trust implicit in infidelity. Now, if I should ever give her something like that, I'm sure it would be appreciated and all, but it's just a rock, eh? I don't know about Jake Baker, but Larry Winters seems to have had some issues. He apparently had need of a secretary; is Jake just a small-timer, then?
Imran,
Don't trade me! You can't make me do it! I'll be good, I promise! Just don't send me over there! I can't do that again! What with the foul tasting XS, and the sandpaper T.P.! And I can't bring myself to blindly quote the drivel from Kiyosaki, Kosage, and Britt!
I won't do it! I won't, I won't, I won't!
Oh man. I can't get the image out of my head! I'm starting to remember songs by The Goads!
Damn You Imran, Damn you! :)
Okay, I linked it.
Can I stay in the club now? :)
Dang, now what we gotta do to get Tony here? Oh take DF. Won't you pay see DF defending Quixtar and Tony calling him an ambot?
Michael is still 'there'. And I want M & M too.
I'll trade Bruce Anderson to get both of them. Bruce was a diamond you know.
ex-dd> MLMscam for Jim Reed
Imran> You need to throw PW and Eric S as well with MLM SCAM to get Jim Reed (Dexter Yager).
And I would rather be on the opposing team of Jennifer7Lee. If she becomes a critic, I'll sign up as an IBO.
It's just that it costs 4 dollar a minute to what she'll say to her 'opposition' for free.
Remember MLM Scam? Good memories eh!
What upsets the Mayor's Office the most, outside of the Gotti-esque displays of wealth, is that the parents in this video made their own children appear and actively promote Quixtar. It's sad and disturbing.
Imran,
(sarcastically) Can I b ur sponsor?hehehe.
Got mine up:
http://hunza1.blogspot.com/
It will be pushed to the top on occasion, as well, as long as this goes on.
P.S. Tony: Making any money? From your business, not from the crumbs the upline tosses you for scribbling on this forum?
Imran,
I have a no trade clause in the contract. LOL
Okay jason, you can stay :-)
MLMscam,
Have you read the book "How to win friends or friendship factor" like I told you to do?
Imran:
You couldn't PAY me to defend that rat-trap organization.
But I will try to stop in every now and then to rip Tonybot a new one...hooray!
I really want to trade Scott Larsen. What should we get in return? I'm thinking Orrin?
Then we critbots will be dripping from integrity too.
from QBlog:
"What the hell is "Seal Team 9?""
The U.S. Navy baseball squad???
Extreme Freedom Appears to be dead anyways.
I guess that's that.
No, Rocket, I bet they simply moved it.
Kudos to the first one to find it!!
Tag, your it!
No, it's still there. I click the link here on qBlog and it took me to their site. Honestly, I think it's pretty hoaky. I don't walk away from those videos with any intention of even considering joining their team at all. If anything, it would push me away.
No, it's down... at least for me. You may be looking at a cached page. Do a hard refresh or wait till the your ISP clears its cache. I really don't know what would cause it but it's definitely gone.
Tony,
If I recall correctly, the reason you continue to share your opinion on this blog is to try to "set straight" those people who are interested in Quixtar, but are doing some investigating on the net in order to make an educated decision. If that is your reasoning, remember, you've got to stay positive. If I've learned anything from my IBO relatives, the key to everything in AQ is to stay POSITIVE. The world is far too negative, and we must surround ourselves with people who are positive, and we ourselves must think only good thoughts. Don't view those who think differently than you as problems; remember they are merely challenges.
With this in mind, think of how many people who visit this sight that you could win for the business with a more positive approach.
Guys,
Extreme team is definetly back up and running! Must of had server problems like a huge influx of traffic...
Extreme team, they were definitely down, and now they're definitely up.
Extreme freedom baby!
I would like to see a real U.S. Navy SEAL Team get ahold of these yahoos. They don't take too kindly to being impersonated by punk wannabees. Neither would I if I had to go through what they do for the title. I think I may pass the link on to an ex commander of SEAL Team one just for fun.
It seems like a really bad Mountain Dew commercial from the mid nineties. I wonder who the target demographic is? But a couple things we do know from the videos, these guys are extreme! And they're free! I think I'm going to go buy some gold chains and show off how extremely free I am! It'll be awesome! Me and my boys'll be totally stoked! Nothing attracts the ladies like like an extremely free man. I'll say, "Yo baby, check out my gold necklace, I'm stopping by the ferrari dealership later, then we're jumping on our jet skis." What lady could resist such a display of understated sophistication? Being rich is great I'm sure but not if you end up acting like a cad, not to mention all the underhanded things these "men" had to do to attain their wealth. Thoroughly disgusting.
quixtar is the best business plan on the earth! you can take that to the bank!
smith> quixtar is the best business plan on the earth! you can take that to the bank!
Joe> To the bank? You mean for a withdrawal?
All other questions aside, you may be asking for trouble by linking to a site when explicitly asked not to. The whole area is still a legal quagmire, and you'll find these days that many sites say you have to get permission to link to them. Google "permission linking" for just a small selection!
http://www.templetons.com/brad/linkright.html has a nice review. http://www.jura.uni-tuebingen.de/bechtold/lcp.html has a list of heaps of lawsuits with results all over the place.
Your choice to take the risk of course :-)
Insider,
With all due respect (and I know you're just trying to help) you don't know what you're talking about. There are a couple of issues here:
1. I've never been "explicitly asked" not to link anything. An anonymous comment on my blog is not explicit at all. For all I know the request was from some marketing genius who wanted to increase traffic by using some "reverse psychology." Nobody has contacted me at any official capacity, ever.
2. The law is pretty clear that linking to a website, especially the main page, is 100% kosher. Pasting the link to the first Google Result doesn't mean you've researched this. I have researched it quite a bit and there is no court in the U.S. who has said that the type of linking I did is illegal. Here are a few additional links to view.
- Linking Laws
- Questions about Linking
- Google Groups Talks about linking
I will concede that the law is less than clear on many types of linking but clearly there is no intent to mislead anyone and I'm certainly not profiting from those links.
Mr. Dawsen said, "I would like to see a real U.S. Navy SEAL Team get ahold of these yahoos".
Well Mr. Dawsen, Before you go talking about wannabees you might want stop right there. I agree with the pro guys above. I am not sure who it is yet but I have a good idea. My opinion for going to this site for the first time is this whole site stinks. Getting to a computer when you hear about this stuff can sometimes be weeks at a time but the last thing one wants to do after being out is to look at your guy's loser Junk. Winners go out and Win. If you did not make it through BUDS you did not cry to Chief or your Team. They just rang the bell and never looked you square in the eye ever again! The quitters also do not go out and make cry baby web sites about how hard it was and how they did not make it thru because of what ever there excuse was. Just like the SEAL's. It is hard Shit! But that is why we are the Best in the world. The business can be hard shit too. It is doable to what ever commitment you sign up for. Just like the SEAL's you are now a target for now being the Best of the Best when you make it. People envy the fact that you were more displine and willing to work harder than the next guy. Yes, they both have rewards tangible and intangible and I believe this has the entire package for the one willing to work for it. For your comment about, "I would like to see a real U.S. Navy SEAL Team get ahold of these yahoos".
Well for your information a few did and I am more than Thankful for it and I know this includes others. Now because of it many are Proud 1 PV'ers or 300 PV'ers. Some are Platinums or Emeralds too and do it because of what it Stands for and you can even ask SEAL Team Commander Mike Carrol also WWDB-DIAMOND. So make sure you show this to the Chief before you tell him you decided to ring the bell.
Real SEAL Man
thank you for that post. I fail to see how the criticism above is driven by envy. You seem to operate under the assumption that because it is hard to do that makes it worthwhile or ethical. To honestly obtain money, one must provide a good or service which he exchanges for the goods and services of others (facilitated through money), or he must inherit it from its rightful owner, or he must stumble accross it by dumb luck. To sell people into a system that only allows them to make a good profit at the expense of others is not ethical, no matter how hard one has to work to do it. Also, I don't think anyone is being criticized for being the best in the world, I haven't seen any criticisms of Bill Gates or Warren Buffet here.
Real Seal Man has a good point. I know the Navy Seals training is tough and only the best of the best succeed. Those who make it have accomplished much.
The same could be said of a diamond.
However, the number of people who become Navy Seals has no correlation with those who failed and did not become Navy Seals.
In quixtar, you cannot have diamonds without having thousands of IBO's who aren't. Or, you cannot have a few rich guys in quixtar without having thousands who aren't.
"In Quixtar, you cannot have diamonds without having thousands of IBO's who aren't. Or, you cannot have a few rich guys in Quixtar without having thousands who aren't."
You cant have McDonald's without millions of people who think it is food.
The same is said about any business you must have someone buying or producing volume to make wealth. Money comes with effort.
If someone is upset with people making money off of Cd's or books. I guess we need to shut down and burn all books, and stores. I don't see you criticizing Billy Graham, Dr. Phil, the ridiculous thousands of books others have created after their claim to fame arrives.
The truth is if someone is a success and they want to tell others how they made it and it helps them become more successfully why is it bad. NO MATTER WHAT INDUSTRY IS INVOLVED.
Start at the bottom. Earn your way to the top no matter what. most people start in a drive Thur window get educated get a better job. However there are a few who see that a job is just slaving yourself off to the highest bidder, my time is mine why should I give all the profit to some one else.
Gates Dell Ford Walton Bruckheimer Sergey Brin Larry Page.
Did any of these start at the top?
All of them had to create a following.
None of them have a unique product.
Some do not even manufacture anything.
Yet today each of you will give them money today when you surf the web or turn on your TV.
Cash will flow and you will be the one making the money or giving it away as you are advertised to and prepare to buy whatever.
Smart ones know and have Links that pay them money I did before Quixtar, with insurance https://www.insureme.com/?Refby=609736 and with Amazon but neither has the ability to pay as Quixtar has. because they do not have the products services or backing.
Enjoy your life it is the only one you get.
Je> You cant have McDonald's without millions of people who think it is food
Joecool> But Je, probably over 95% of McDonald's franchises make money. In Quixtar, 95% of IBO's lose money. Big difference. A McDonald's owner could not make money if only he and his family, and employees purchased ate all the burgers.
Yes, people do not start at the top, but in the real business world, at least you have a fighting chance of success with a conventional business wheras you are almost doomed for failure in a quixtar business.
Well I guess thats where you went wrong because I am not doomed. You failed to understand 98 % of traditional business fail almost the opposite is true for a franchise. I liken the Quixtar experience to a private franchise. I have client and members in my business and even if I did not have another IBO I would still be making money. For every case of XS I sell I get $4 and the PV average client/member drinks 2 a day or eats protein bar each day.
If you are smart I'll let you do the math. I f you are not smart I guess that is why you failed. Maybe the mentor failed? Anyway, I hope you love your job I love the absence of mine.
Ah shoot I don't trust your math from what you said up there so here goes.
In your McDonald's experiment If you had 8 of these on-line no overhead no insurance no employee theft. So it will all hit great margins, lets see we will limit to only 20 employees each so we have a total of 160 people working and eating not including families.
Now if each one eats three meals let say average cheap again $3 we are on the $ menu with a water.
That adds to $1440 in one day not counting family. and this is just food not counting tooth paste toilet paper shoes shirt and other items we buy each day because you can buy everything there.
So $1440 and each dollar has 40-60 cents of profit in the real world we will take the low one. That comes to a check for $576/day
30 days $17,280
Your own logic is wrong use your brain.
So
Now it is not my job to ask all those people to join just to ask if you are looking to make money.
Also if I am responsible for only getting 3 started and they find the millions I am still happy for the company because If I didn't recognize the leader nothing would of ever come from them and yes you do get a small finders fee, more than enough for a car payment
Je> Well I guess thats where you went wrong because I am not doomed. You failed to understand 98 % of traditional business fail almost the opposite is true for a franchise.
Joecool> Je, read my post again. I did not say you are doomed, I said you are almost doomed. Also, where did you get your information about businesses? They do not all fail in 98% of the cases.
Well I guess thats where you went wrong because I am not doomed. You failed to understand 98 % of traditional business fail almost the opposite is true for a franchise:
http://www.amquix.info/pdfs/small_business_faqs.pdf
Je> In your McDonald's experiment If you had 8 of these on-line no overhead no insurance no employee theft. So it will all hit great margins, lets see we will limit to only 20 employees each so we have a total of 160 people working and eating not including families.
Now if each one eats three meals let say average cheap again $3 we are on the $ menu with a water.
That adds to $1440 in one day not counting family. and this is just food not counting tooth paste toilet paper shoes shirt and other items we buy each day because you can buy everything there.
So $1440 and each dollar has 40-60 cents of profit in the real world we will take the low one. That comes to a check for $576/day
Joe> In Mcdonald's, you need to pay for rent, utilities, and the employees.
The point is that if you buy from yourself, and teach others to do the same, then the bonuses are made from yourself and the others who follow you. Then add in the profits the diamonds make from cd's and seminars and now you're making the big bucks
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Linked to MODE www.jerry.ipfox.com -- Their disclosure at the bottom of their page informs of these peoples character. Obviously they are not being honest when they say they are not using this site to recruit and influence people to register with their organization. Amazing, that people do not see that when they visit the site who are looking to join this team.
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I am looking to start with quixtar, but i have a question i hope you can answer. I have been doing some "research" and it appears that quixtar does business with sony, nike, circuit city and a lot of cool companies. So, if quixtar is so illegitamate, how do you explain all these companies who for obvious reasons would want to be associated with something shady. I read that the vice president of barnes and noble said that quixtar was the best business to bussiness relationship they have ever had.
Ex-dd> What post 9/01/99 registered IBO has gone diamond?
IBO> Yeah, The Crow team broke 1 diamond last year with Dave and Kristen D. and the Winters team broke 1 diamond last year with Mike & Janna W from Iowa. I'm not on Mike's team, but from what I understand, it took him about 5-6 years.
He just recently got back from his first trip to Peter Island, with his upline.
Campbell and Diane Haugh just qualified Diamond, and will actually be a founders Diamond at the end of the year. There are also 2 other couples in Diamond qualification who will be recognized as new Diamonds this year. And there are at least 5 Emerald couples right behind them. And one 23 year old young man, who started just a couple years ago, way down in depth from Mike W that is now in Emerald qualification.
What people don't seem to remember is that this is NOT a Business Guarentee, it's a buisiness opportunity(def. a good chance for advancement or progress), and it works for those who work it.
What amazes me is when people see the plan, get excited, get started, then quit because they listen to some loser who comes along, talking negative and steals their dreams. But ultimately it's an individual choice. You can choose to let some one steal your dream(What ever it is) , or you can choose to say I have a dream, a burning desire now, and I'm going to do something about it to achieve it.
I'm not going to sit here and try and convince all of you nay sayers that this is the best business opportunity in the world. If you've already made up your mind that it doesn't work, then you're right, it will never work for YOU. But I will say, that in my 31 years here on this 3rd rock from the sun, it's the best opportunity I've seen,and I've seen a few. If you don't like it, or don't get it or quit for what ever reason, that's great, god bless you in what ever you choose to do, as for me I look forward to some extreme freedom.
I'll be completely transparent with you here, I've been in just over a year now, and I've been hovering between 600-1000PV. Has it been easy? Absolutley not, and my upline never said it would be, in fact they told me it wouldn't be easy, because there is a fair amount of personal growth that I've had to work on in the area of people skills, etc... But you have to remember, this is a short cut to retirement from corporate america,at least for me. Short cuts aren't supposed to be easy. If it were easy, it wouldn't be a shortcut, it'd just be the WAY. In any case, Quixtar isn't responsible for where I am in my business, I am responsible for where I am in my business. I'm only 600-1000pv because I have not yet put forth, what I consider my best effort. In short I haven't FAILED enough yet. Even if it takes me 14 years to go diamond, I'd rather live with the pain of dicipline than with the pain of regret, and go diamond. I've never been really good with math, but I'm prety sure 14 is still less than 40 and it's still 20 less than 34,which is how many year's I'd have left if I retired at 65. But just to share, the business has never been better. People everywhere are looking for opportunity, for a better way then working 40-60 hours a week for 40 years. It is becoming more common now days for people to be going 1000-2500pv in their first month or two. At least on the team I'm on.
Thomas Wright, I want to offer you and anyone else checking in one piece of advice, from an IBO who is actively building the business. Before making your decision whether to start a Q* business, or any business for that matter, if you have questions about the business, consider the source of the information you're looking at. You have a choice. You can choose to listen to negative people who "tried" it and quit, or you can listen to the positive people who are "building" it and are successfull in the business and are willing to help you.
If you search, you can find negative about any thing if that's what you're looking for in any form of media.
Don't let someone else make this decision for you just because it didn't work for them. And while I do appreciate this forum(at least it posts both sides from what I've seen), and everyone's right to free speech, it doesn't mean I have to agree with their opinion(s). So I would challenge you to make your own decision for yourself based on where you are in life and your own circumstances and family who YOU have to provide for in this world. In other words, the people posting on this board, myself included, are not responsible for your lifestyle(time and money), YOU are.
And if take a look at it and find this business isn't for you, again god bless ya, I'll tell you right now,honestly, this business isn't for everyone(that's why they give you 6 months to try it out), but please find something that will work for you out side of corporate america, so you're not trapped working for the man until you're 65, or worse Wal-mart until you're 85.
Also, if you're not interested, be honest and tell the person who approached you about the business, thanks but no thanks. They will appreciate the fact that they know where you stand, so they won't have to spend time continously contacting you thinking you may be interested when you're not.
Any questions let me know.
Good day all.
I captain!
Linked. Extreme linking baby. Let me do some research and write a fair and balanced post on them, like I always do ;)
Posted by: Imran | October 4, 2005 4:25 AM