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September 21, 2005
Quixtar Backbone Project - Entry Three
By QBlog in Backbone Project
About This Project
The main goal of this project is to initiate a dialogue with regular,
hardworking IBOs by reaching out to what I refer to as the "Quixtar Backbone"
(project details). If you'd like to participate send an email
to quixtar@webraw.com
(and put "Quixtar Backbone" as the subject).
Entry Number Three
Name: Peter Salzman
Line of Sponsorship: Team Builders
Current qualifying pin level: <1000
How long you’ve been in Quixtar/Amway contiguously: Since
May 2005
Professional or educational background: Graduated with Honors
from the Anthropology Department of Wesleyan University. 2 years of Yeshiva/Jewish
Studies in Israel. MA Certified Teacher with 4 years of public school experience.
Taught web design and have 5 five years of professional experience developing
a non-profit knowledge project called Dirtroad
Cooperative.
Additional comments: I have known about this business since
1997 before it was Quixtar and was an inactive IBO from 1999-2003. This time
around with the help of my new mentors I aim to make it work and have become
active, and along with recently becoming an IBO in an Apprentice Leg, I have
launched a website to help market & promote my business at www.planetibo.com.
I have worked on making it dynamic & look professional for countless moments
of my waking life and sleepless nights developing and managing the original
content, collecting available resources including ebooks & websites like
the Napoleon Hill Foundation, Robert Kiyosaki, & yours, and intend it to
be a universal business portal for independent business owners in general, not
only IBOs powered by Quixtar.
The Five Questions
- Have you ever seen a "tool money" contract?
No. I thought they only offer those to IBOs who already had too much money to know what to do with! I have done research on problems around the shadow business of selling “The System” and I have some ideas about possible reform. First, I like the suggested changes you mention elsewhere on your site:
- Publishing the tool plan for everyone to see
- Alternative methods for distributing tools
- Using technology more effectively
- Reducing the number of meetings
- Making meetings more localized
- Redistribute control of the tool business
I also liked what Rich Devos himself said on the recording “Directly Speaking” from January 1983. It was addressed to Amway distributors but it can still apply for Quixtar:
“Some of you have got to ask yourself whether you're really in the Amway [Quixtar] business or whether you're in the tape business. You got to ask yourself whether you're really in the rally business or in the Amway [Quixtar] business. You must ask yourself if everything you're doing is to support your Amway [Quixtar] business or is it really for a secondary motive…”
The closest thing I’ve seen to a “Tool Money” contract is a form they gave me when I registered as an IBO last May 2005. It was for direct bank account withdrawal of $80 per month for the Teambuilders’ “System” of monthly tapes and books. I couldn’t sign it then and haven’t been able to yet as I was and still am living within minimal means after expenses like rent, groceries, gas, and gas!
I have been able to borrow tapes and also read or buy recommended books on my own like Napoleon Hill’s “Think and Grow Rich” and Robert Kiyosaki’s “Business School” but I do have a brainstorm about a change I would like to see that could make things more affordable and allow for more freedom of choice.
I say break “The System” into two professional development programs, one for tapes & one for books with $50 a month for the 8-10 tapes and then instead of sending books as part of the package, allow IBOs to use the other $30 a month to buy titles on their own from a recommended reading list. That way they can receive free shipping from our partner store Barnes & Noble and earn PV at the same time.
More people might be able to participate in one or both programs depending on their learning style, motivation, interest, or financial situation. When my finances permit I will be buying into “The System” because I like the tapes and can share them with prospects to help my business. I’m not sure what books they send now, however, hhere’s my top ten list of alternative titles from the apocrypha that probably haven’t made “The System” cannon yet but could still really help your business grow:
- Cloak & Dollar – Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones
- The Diamond Cutter – Geshe Michael Roach
- Only the Paranoid Survive – Andrew Grove
- Business @ the Speed of Thought – Bill Gates
- High Technology & Low Income Communities – Donald A. Schon, Ed.
- Ethical Dimensions in Marxist Thought – Cornel West
- The Protestant Ethic & The Spirit of Capitalism – Max Weber
- Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism – Chogyam Trungpa
- Manifesto for a New World Order – George Monbiot
- Don’t Worry Make Money – Richard Carlson
- What is the most exciting thing about Quixtar?
Believe it or not my first gestalt response was Absolutely Nothing! But ask any Kabbalist about the Hebrew meaning of “yesh m’ayin” and if they don’t get excited then they’re not the real thing.
When I first became an IBO, it was the week of Quixtar’s launch in September 1999 and they were calling it a “digital destination”. I was registered yet inactive for 3 years and though I did nothing with the business, I did take that idea and ran with it to create my project Dirtroad.org which is still going strong but has never been for profit.
In 2005, as a new IBO working with the Teambuilders Organization, it took some getting used to learning how they refer to Quixtar.com as an Order Consolidation Site (OCS). That’s true and definitely more accurate than digital destination but I also think there’s something more going on than either of these ideas.
In “Only The Paranoid Survive” the author talks about taking advantage of “strategic inflection points” and in “Business @ the Speed of Thought” his friend explores effectively using a “digital nervous system.” I believe Quixtar is both these things and I find Interactive Commerce as an Independent Business Owner powered by Quixtar exciting because it’s not only like having the new engine of a hybrid Ford Escape that helps me drive with Freedom Fuel, it’s also the flux capacitor of the Back to the Future Delorean I believe can help many people fly and transcend space & time.
However, to be honest, I wouldn’t care so much about SUVs or time machines if I couldn’t find someone with whom to share the rest of my life so in the end, besides the fact that Quixtar writes the checks, I guess the most exciting thing would be all the pretty independent women I will meet who will help me Diamond in this business just by beautifying themselves with Artistry body wash, skin care, & cosmetics as potential new clients, members or better yet as future IBOs in one of my 6 Q12 Platinum profit-sharing legs. Very exciting!
- Why is it important for new IBOs to learn about retailing products?
Why is easy but how takes creativity and good marketing strategies. You can make a lot of money as an IBO by marketing our products for retail but how? Here are some ideas and they reflect not just this IBO but the kind of people I’m working with in Teambuilders who are very intelligent and super cool to do business with.
Retail XS Energy Drinks by the can or 4pack to regular energy drink consumers or set up bar and nightclub owners as IBO distributors to mix them with whatever and sell as alternative beverages to things like Red Bull & vodka. You could move 100s or 1000s of cases that way as they come in 7 juicy fizzy flavors, all better than Red Bull, and unlike that stuff, 100% Kosher.
Retail eSpring water purifiers & iCook ware to restaurants & home kitchens for great PV/BV with a significant profit margin between your IBO price and retail that lets you keep the difference in sales. Of course there’s also Health & Beauty with Nutrilite and Artistry, both of the highest quality naturally made free of animal by-products or any kind of inhumane testing. That goes for our entire Kosher-Halal original line of products and it makes me happy doing business one with Halacha.
Retail Freedom Fuel by the bottle or the case to clients, members or anyone you know who is concerned about fuel economy with gas prices well over $3 a gallon. I thought that would be everybody but someone actually told me, “To be honest, these days I don’t really care too much about fuel efficiency or cleaner emissions.” I didn’t know what to say at that point but there is a partner in my foundation leg who wants to set up an account with the local transit line’s whole fleet of public buses. Now that’s thinking big so it gave me some ideas like since Harley Davidson endorses this product, we could sell it to all the Hell’s Angels in North America. Since Ford also stands by it, I’d like to set up accounts for all the Crown Vic yellow taxis in Manhattan and every cruiser for NYPD across the 5 boroughs. How about every limousine company in Los Angels and Los Vegas or all the agency vehicles of the Secret Service, FBI, CIA, NSA, and NRO?
It’s 100% money back satisfaction guaranteed and my partners are even talking to oil heating companies because the product works its magic with furnaces as well and could be added as a treatment when they come to fill homeowner’s tanks. And speaking of tanks, don’t get me started about the military cause when I think about all the cars and trucks of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marines I don’t know if I want to be in the business of helping our war machine become any more efficient but I think this particular war has gone on long enough and as far as business is concerned it’s been terrible for our economy but never mind the loss of jobs or money, because I can live with being broke but I can’t sleep at night losing count of all the priceless lives that have been lost with casualties so heavy now on both sides and we still don’t know for what or why? Pray tell Mr. Bush!
- How has Quixtar strengthened your faith?
In “Cloak & Dollar," a book I mentioned above about the History of Secret Intelligence in America, the author discusses the importance of a Confidence Man, literally a man with faith, in the business of intelligence. His service is priceless but the book basically says that it is understood that a fair wage for such a man would be a modest $100,000 a year.
I am not making that with Quixtar today as I have not yet made my pretty penny but my business is growing and I am becoming close to people who are steadily approaching that mark or who have successfully surpassed it and they are the mentors in my upline. Those people in Teambuilders, not Quixtar, have strengthened my faith with a strength of character, integrity, and compassion I believe is rare. But when I start seeing those exponentially larger Company checks with my legal name on it then perhaps I can say Quixtar has strengthened my faith and for them I have a simple poem …
I am told Quixtar will write me checks for the rest of my waking life
And if I pass away they’ll write them to my wife
And when we’re both in heaven they’ll send them to our children
And to our children’s children
First a thousand then a million
Then a billion then a trillion
Then a zillion till you lose count
And that’s called a whole fartillion!
You say, “I’ll believe that when I see it & it sounds like for less than 1 in 6 million”
I say, “You’ll see that when you believe it’s meant for all the earth’s 6 billion!” - What is your response to the charges made by ex-pins like Bo Short,
Don J. Lorencz, Jeff Probant, Eric Scheibeler and Bruce Anderson?
Bo Short, the man who made his diamond shine
Seriously, I think he has some good arguments and I like that Passport seminars are free and on the company, not out of the pockets of IBOs. I would eventually like to read his 2 books on success and leadership but as for right now I can’t even earn PV because Barnes & Noble doesn’t carry either one and I have many others on my must-read-again-soon list including “Opposing the System” on the Greening of America and Fritjof Capra’s “Web of Life” on Deep Ecology and the natural elegance of systems theory.
Then just let it expire so they asked him to resign
On his old Quixtar tapes he was all about “The System”
Then he realized he was lying so he turned around and dissed them
I thought he was a hypocrite but I learned he was a jerk
When I heard him say he started Passport because MLM really works
Don J. Lorencz – I read his letter and I still want to do this business. I heard a podcast for your Qblog Radio and you were talking to Law Dawg about Mr. Lorencz. Basically the discussion was about how he saw some problems with Quixtar, tried to fix them from within, realized it was impossible, and left the company. Law Dawg then agreed that the whole enterprise was doomed and that the only way he could see Quixtar succeeding is if they reversed their plans to stay online with the Internet’s click and order and instead build a chain of stores just like Walmart brick and mortar.
Would a real alchemist want to turn his gold back into lead? If I want lead I’ll buy a sinker for my fishing pole or a box of pencils for my sketch pad. I’d be happy never to see another open piece of natural landscape be replaced by strip mall brick and mortars again and I feel good about Quixtar cause the let me play my part to offer an alternative.
I’m still exploring Jeff Probant’s website but I must say neither his nor his host’s site are very professional so it’s hard to take them too seriously. They both should hire me to build them a new one.
You discuss Bruce Anderson in detail on another page of your site and I couldn’t find much else so there’s nothing really to respond to. But the one that disturbed me most was what I downloaded from Merchants of Deception.
I read ex-Amway, anti-Quixtar critic Eric Scheibeler’s free book and it really was a heartbreaking and maddening story but I still want to do this business. I think all IBOs should read it just like I think all Marines should watch Stanley Kubrick’s “Full Metal Jacket.”
But “Merchants of Deception” is stuck on the horrible scene where the fat soldier really goes off the deep end and wastes his psycho drill sergeant and then turns his weapon on himself and blows his own brains out.
I’m like Joker a few years after witnessing that tragedy now in Vietnam with “Born to Kill” on my helmet and a peace sign pinned to my jacket. Yes his story tells truth but not the whole truth because I like how that movie ends with all the men walking in the night through a battle zone in flames and they’re all singing “M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E!”
Mr. Scheibeler emailed me from his personal Yahoo account thanking me for downloading his book with a subject header that said “YOUR Am-Quix Story is Important!” It was clear by his questions that he was only interested in people’s nightmares but I wrote him mine anyways even though it does not support his thesis. That exchange can be found on my website in a section under “Stories” simply called “Letters & Emails” accessible to member readers only but luckily registration is free and easy. By the way, I just saw Kubrick’s Dr. Strangelove and Clockwork Orange for the first time this week. Wow!
Like a good acupuncturist you stuck those ex-pins into my Quixtar Backbone. Your needles are supposed to be sterile and disposable and I think those men have had their 15 minutes of fame that comes when you throw away the keys of life and lock yourself out of your own dream house.
Some men will never taste the sweetness of success because their mouths are too filled with Loshon HaRa [the wicked tongue of bitterness] and none of them have offered any positive alternative that’s compelling enough for me to quit Quixtar and try making it again in the rat race or worse via negativa by joining any of their angry crusades. Besides, I thought these Quixtar Backbone entries were for non-Diamond IBOs to represent themselves in truth to give voice to the diverse masses of intelligent men and women who make up the life-blood of this business. So please allow me one more paragraph to share where I’m coming from and how I plan to do business.
I’m neither Republican nor Democrat as I’m politically independent and eco-friendly Green. Some say I’m left of center but compared to the radical right wing propaganda of Amway’s darker past, I’m confident most people will find my views if not moderate than at least progressive and certainly very positive.
That said, none of the functions or tapes from Teambuilders have pushed any kind of political agenda, though there are both liberals and conservatives in the organization. Also, while everyone I have encountered has been spiritually aware, I have witnessed a universal spirituality that fosters interfaith acceptance including for an atheist, though I know there are plenty of church-going devout Christians in my line of sponsorship as well.
I want to talk with Wise Intelligent and Culture Freedom and all Poor Righteous Teachers of the 5% Nation. I plan to keep this business Kosher like my kitchen with proper weights and measures and I have a vision for equitable prosperity, global justice, enduring freedom, and lasting peace. So far I’ve only Showed the Plan to Rabbis for their blessings to share this business with the rest of the world including but not limited to 4,000 emissaries of Chabad Hasidim with their global network of community centers, leading entrepreneurs, and hopefully with you as well.
So please feel free to visit Planet IBO and contact me if you think you might like working with my team or even if you just want to make a connection. I have made some good new friends inside this business but I would also really appreciate having some good new friends outside this business as well. It's like that U2 song, "I can't live with or without you". Get to know me!"
- Have you ever seen a "tool money" contract?
No. I thought they only offer those to IBOs who already had too much money to know what to do with! I have done research on problems around the shadow business of selling “The System” and I have some ideas about possible reform. First, I like the suggested changes you mention elsewhere on your site:
- Publishing the tool plan for everyone to see
- Alternative methods for distributing tools
- Using technology more effectively
- Reducing the number of meetings
- Making meetings more localized
- Redistribute control of the tool business
I also liked what Rich Devos himself said on the recording “Directly Speaking” from January 1983. It was addressed to Amway distributors but it can still apply for Quixtar:
“Some of you have got to ask yourself whether you're really in the Amway [Quixtar] business or whether you're in the tape business. You got to ask yourself whether you're really in the rally business or in the Amway [Quixtar] business. You must ask yourself if everything you're doing is to support your Amway [Quixtar] business or is it really for a secondary motive…”
The closest thing I’ve seen to a “Tool Money” contract is a form they gave me when I registered as an IBO last May 2005. It was for direct bank account withdrawal of $80 per month for the Teambuilders’ “System” of monthly tapes and books. I couldn’t sign it then and haven’t been able to yet as I was and still am living within minimal means after expenses like rent, groceries, gas, and gas!
I have been able to borrow tapes and also read or buy recommended books on my own like Napoleon Hill’s “Think and Grow Rich” and Robert Kiyosaki’s “Business School” but I do have a brainstorm about a change I would like to see that could make things more affordable and allow for more freedom of choice.
I say break “The System” into two professional development programs, one for tapes & one for books with $50 a month for the 8-10 tapes and then instead of sending books as part of the package, allow IBOs to use the other $30 a month to buy titles on their own from a recommended reading list. That way they can receive free shipping from our partner store Barnes & Noble and earn PV at the same time.
More people might be able to participate in one or both programs depending on their learning style, motivation, interest, or financial situation. When my finances permit I will be buying into “The System” because I like the tapes and can share them with prospects to help my business. I’m not sure what books they send now, however, hhere’s my top ten list of alternative titles from the apocrypha that probably haven’t made “The System” cannon yet but could still really help your business grow:
- Cloak & Dollar – Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones
- The Diamond Cutter – Geshe Michael Roach
- Only the Paranoid Survive – Andrew Grove
- Business @ the Speed of Thought – Bill Gates
- High Technology & Low Income Communities – Donald A. Schon, Ed.
- Ethical Dimensions in Marxist Thought – Cornel West
- The Protestant Ethic & The Spirit of Capitalism – Max Weber
- Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism – Chogyam Trungpa
- Manifesto for a New World Order – George Monbiot
- Don’t Worry Make Money – Richard Carlson
- What is the most exciting thing about Quixtar?
Believe it or not my first gestalt response was Absolutely Nothing! But ask any Kabbalist about the Hebrew meaning of “yesh m’ayin” and if they don’t get excited then they’re not the real thing.
When I first became an IBO, it was the week of Quixtar’s launch in September 1999 and they were calling it a “digital destination”. I was registered yet inactive for 3 years and though I did nothing with the business, I did take that idea and ran with it to create my project Dirtroad.org which is still going strong but has never been for profit.
In 2005, as a new IBO working with the Teambuilders Organization, it took some getting used to learning how they refer to Quixtar.com as an Order Consolidation Site (OCS). That’s true and definitely more accurate than digital destination but I also think there’s something more going on than either of these ideas.
In “Only The Paranoid Survive” the author talks about taking advantage of “strategic inflection points” and in “Business @ the Speed of Thought” his friend explores effectively using a “digital nervous system.” I believe Quixtar is both these things and I find Interactive Commerce as an Independent Business Owner powered by Quixtar exciting because it’s not only like having the new engine of a hybrid Ford Escape that helps me drive with Freedom Fuel, it’s also the flux capacitor of the Back to the Future Delorean I believe can help many people fly and transcend space & time.
However, to be honest, I wouldn’t care so much about SUVs or time machines if I couldn’t find someone with whom to share the rest of my life so in the end, besides the fact that Quixtar writes the checks, I guess the most exciting thing would be all the pretty independent women I will meet who will help me Diamond in this business just by beautifying themselves with Artistry body wash, skin care, & cosmetics as potential new clients, members or better yet as future IBOs in one of my 6 Q12 Platinum profit-sharing legs. Very exciting!
- Why is it important for new IBOs to learn about retailing products?
Why is easy but how takes creativity and good marketing strategies. You can make a lot of money as an IBO by marketing our products for retail but how? Here are some ideas and they reflect not just this IBO but the kind of people I’m working with in Teambuilders who are very intelligent and super cool to do business with.
Retail XS Energy Drinks by the can or 4pack to regular energy drink consumers or set up bar and nightclub owners as IBO distributors to mix them with whatever and sell as alternative beverages to things like Red Bull & vodka. You could move 100s or 1000s of cases that way as they come in 7 juicy fizzy flavors, all better than Red Bull, and unlike that stuff, 100% Kosher.
Retail eSpring water purifiers & iCook ware to restaurants & home kitchens for great PV/BV with a significant profit margin between your IBO price and retail that lets you keep the difference in sales. Of course there’s also Health & Beauty with Nutrilite and Artistry, both of the highest quality naturally made free of animal by-products or any kind of inhumane testing. That goes for our entire Kosher-Halal original line of products and it makes me happy doing business one with Halacha.
Retail Freedom Fuel by the bottle or the case to clients, members or anyone you know who is concerned about fuel economy with gas prices well over $3 a gallon. I thought that would be everybody but someone actually told me, “To be honest, these days I don’t really care too much about fuel efficiency or cleaner emissions.” I didn’t know what to say at that point but there is a partner in my foundation leg who wants to set up an account with the local transit line’s whole fleet of public buses. Now that’s thinking big so it gave me some ideas like since Harley Davidson endorses this product, we could sell it to all the Hell’s Angels in North America. Since Ford also stands by it, I’d like to set up accounts for all the Crown Vic yellow taxis in Manhattan and every cruiser for NYPD across the 5 boroughs. How about every limousine company in Los Angels and Los Vegas or all the agency vehicles of the Secret Service, FBI, CIA, NSA, and NRO?
It’s 100% money back satisfaction guaranteed and my partners are even talking to oil heating companies because the product works its magic with furnaces as well and could be added as a treatment when they come to fill homeowner’s tanks. And speaking of tanks, don’t get me started about the military cause when I think about all the cars and trucks of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marines I don’t know if I want to be in the business of helping our war machine become any more efficient but I think this particular war has gone on long enough and as far as business is concerned it’s been terrible for our economy but never mind the loss of jobs or money, because I can live with being broke but I can’t sleep at night losing count of all the priceless lives that have been lost with casualties so heavy now on both sides and we still don’t know for what or why? Pray tell Mr. Bush!
- How has Quixtar strengthened your faith?
In “Cloak & Dollar," a book I mentioned above about the History of Secret Intelligence in America, the author discusses the importance of a Confidence Man, literally a man with faith, in the business of intelligence. His service is priceless but the book basically says that it is understood that a fair wage for such a man would be a modest $100,000 a year.
I am not making that with Quixtar today as I have not yet made my pretty penny but my business is growing and I am becoming close to people who are steadily approaching that mark or who have successfully surpassed it and they are the mentors in my upline. Those people in Teambuilders, not Quixtar, have strengthened my faith with a strength of character, integrity, and compassion I believe is rare. But when I start seeing those exponentially larger Company checks with my legal name on it then perhaps I can say Quixtar has strengthened my faith and for them I have a simple poem …
I am told Quixtar will write me checks for the rest of my waking life
And if I pass away they’ll write them to my wife
And when we’re both in heaven they’ll send them to our children
And to our children’s children
First a thousand then a million
Then a billion then a trillion
Then a zillion till you lose count
And that’s called a whole fartillion!
You say, “I’ll believe that when I see it & it sounds like for less than 1 in 6 million”
I say, “You’ll see that when you believe it’s meant for all the earth’s 6 billion!” - What is your response to the charges made by ex-pins like Bo Short,
Don J. Lorencz, Jeff Probant, Eric Scheibeler and Bruce Anderson?
Bo Short, the man who made his diamond shine
Seriously, I think he has some good arguments and I like that Passport seminars are free and on the company, not out of the pockets of IBOs. I would eventually like to read his 2 books on success and leadership but as for right now I can’t even earn PV because Barnes & Noble doesn’t carry either one and I have many others on my must-read-again-soon list including “Opposing the System” on the Greening of America and Fritjof Capra’s “Web of Life” on Deep Ecology and the natural elegance of systems theory.
Then just let it expire so they asked him to resign
On his old Quixtar tapes he was all about “The System”
Then he realized he was lying so he turned around and dissed them
I thought he was a hypocrite but I learned he was a jerk
When I heard him say he started Passport because MLM really works
Don J. Lorencz – I read his letter and I still want to do this business. I heard a podcast for your Qblog Radio and you were talking to Law Dawg about Mr. Lorencz. Basically the discussion was about how he saw some problems with Quixtar, tried to fix them from within, realized it was impossible, and left the company. Law Dawg then agreed that the whole enterprise was doomed and that the only way he could see Quixtar succeeding is if they reversed their plans to stay online with the Internet’s click and order and instead build a chain of stores just like Walmart brick and mortar.
Would a real alchemist want to turn his gold back into lead? If I want lead I’ll buy a sinker for my fishing pole or a box of pencils for my sketch pad. I’d be happy never to see another open piece of natural landscape be replaced by strip mall brick and mortars again and I feel good about Quixtar cause the let me play my part to offer an alternative.
I’m still exploring Jeff Probant’s website but I must say neither his nor his host’s site are very professional so it’s hard to take them too seriously. They both should hire me to build them a new one.
You discuss Bruce Anderson in detail on another page of your site and I couldn’t find much else so there’s nothing really to respond to. But the one that disturbed me most was what I downloaded from Merchants of Deception.
I read ex-Amway, anti-Quixtar critic Eric Scheibeler’s free book and it really was a heartbreaking and maddening story but I still want to do this business. I think all IBOs should read it just like I think all Marines should watch Stanley Kubrick’s “Full Metal Jacket.”
But “Merchants of Deception” is stuck on the horrible scene where the fat soldier really goes off the deep end and wastes his psycho drill sergeant and then turns his weapon on himself and blows his own brains out.
I’m like Joker a few years after witnessing that tragedy now in Vietnam with “Born to Kill” on my helmet and a peace sign pinned to my jacket. Yes his story tells truth but not the whole truth because I like how that movie ends with all the men walking in the night through a battle zone in flames and they’re all singing “M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E!”
Mr. Scheibeler emailed me from his personal Yahoo account thanking me for downloading his book with a subject header that said “YOUR Am-Quix Story is Important!” It was clear by his questions that he was only interested in people’s nightmares but I wrote him mine anyways even though it does not support his thesis. That exchange can be found on my website in a section under “Stories” simply called “Letters & Emails” accessible to member readers only but luckily registration is free and easy. By the way, I just saw Kubrick’s Dr. Strangelove and Clockwork Orange for the first time this week. Wow!
Like a good acupuncturist you stuck those ex-pins into my Quixtar Backbone. Your needles are supposed to be sterile and disposable and I think those men have had their 15 minutes of fame that comes when you throw away the keys of life and lock yourself out of your own dream house.
Some men will never taste the sweetness of success because their mouths are too filled with Loshon HaRa [the wicked tongue of bitterness] and none of them have offered any positive alternative that’s compelling enough for me to quit Quixtar and try making it again in the rat race or worse via negativa by joining any of their angry crusades. Besides, I thought these Quixtar Backbone entries were for non-Diamond IBOs to represent themselves in truth to give voice to the diverse masses of intelligent men and women who make up the life-blood of this business. So please allow me one more paragraph to share where I’m coming from and how I plan to do business.
I’m neither Republican nor Democrat as I’m politically independent and eco-friendly Green. Some say I’m left of center but compared to the radical right wing propaganda of Amway’s darker past, I’m confident most people will find my views if not moderate than at least progressive and certainly very positive.
That said, none of the functions or tapes from Teambuilders have pushed any kind of political agenda, though there are both liberals and conservatives in the organization. Also, while everyone I have encountered has been spiritually aware, I have witnessed a universal spirituality that fosters interfaith acceptance including for an atheist, though I know there are plenty of church-going devout Christians in my line of sponsorship as well.
I want to talk with Wise Intelligent and Culture Freedom and all Poor Righteous Teachers of the 5% Nation. I plan to keep this business Kosher like my kitchen with proper weights and measures and I have a vision for equitable prosperity, global justice, enduring freedom, and lasting peace. So far I’ve only Showed the Plan to Rabbis for their blessings to share this business with the rest of the world including but not limited to 4,000 emissaries of Chabad Hasidim with their global network of community centers, leading entrepreneurs, and hopefully with you as well.
So please feel free to visit Planet IBO and contact me if you think you might like working with my team or even if you just want to make a connection. I have made some good new friends inside this business but I would also really appreciate having some good new friends outside this business as well. It's like that U2 song, "I can't live with or without you". Get to know me!"
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I like this 'green' IBO, but BO Short is one litmus test that never fails. Fortunately, his site is much clear than baboon Anderson and we all have read what BO said.
Was he a jerk or not? He explained so in the Qblog forum. He was Diamond in nineties where so much growth had convinced every one that business is indeed 'exploding'. 'System' appeared to be working then. Picture us much clouded by every one appearing so happy and excited around diamonds.
from 9199 and on, picture was clear for him and many others about the 'success' of the system.
Beside, by Quixtar own numbers, there can't be 50 diamonds and rest have fallen from qualification, and are faking, so why always 'buying' legs is pointed to BO? Who is not faking?
BO appeared on TV, and let the reporter ask him questions.
Any Diamond who would do that?
Any Diamond who will come to an open forum and talk about Quixtar? BO did.
Why is the people who are against Quixtar are so vocal on the web? Where are all the ‘great leaders’ on web? Mr Salzman?
How come only BO had a unique idea to make a site that is not retarded and has free content?
Should be other way around, no?
Or does tells a lot?
This guy sounds JUST LIKE that snake-oil salesman who had that meeting with me (see my blog; 'why I will not help you dupe my friends,' …& others). I'm reading his thing saying: "He really thinks he's going to make money and meet 'beautiful independent chicks who will help [him] become diamond by beautifying themselves with [product name here]' ?!?!" I don't know if I'm really pissed off at him, or if I feel sorry for him.
-r
PS:
It all boils down to my thesis question: Do they ACTUALLY believe this horseshit, or are they aware and are therefore knowingly duping other people. My reaction to his pseudo-Christian/though weirdly materialistic/cynical/bully attitude is similar: You sound like a cult member. With religion, you're either strengthing yourself and your belief in man and mother nature's ability to reconcile, or you're pushing dogma on other people and criticizing them if they don't toe the line, and fall in line and stand in line…
*shrugs* I don't know how Qb does it. The questions you asked (unless I misunderstood) you were so stoic, some of the answers he gave, I would have ripped into him with my (eventually purely) ineffectual, though angry 'your promises are so empty yet you believe this stuff, really?' …I would have said: (thesis moment)— "Do you really believe that? So: Are you stupid, or are you an evil fuck who thinks I'm stupid?"
:( If I knew where you were and if I wasn't deadbroke (making me a target for these [insert plural dirty thougt here]), I'd offer to buy Qb a drink. Good work man.
-=-
Oh, my! How long did this up-and-coming "winner" spend designing his responses? I think I need to shower!!
Did anyone notice that when he was asked about the Tools Contract, he thought it meant signing up for automatic withdrawals for Standing Order tools?
PW
How bout u Q?
Should the last Quixtar fighter be laughing or crying?
Someone obviously didn't get my jokes about shady "tool money" contracts so I don't understand your question PW and now everyone can notice what you failed to notice from my first 2 sentences. And I can't believe someone missed the humor in my answer about what's the most exciting thing and actually accused me of sounding even pseudo-Christian! For them I have poem by a Rabbi whose daughter is a good friend of mine.
A Jew is someone who when they're laughing on the outside they are crying on the inside and when they're crying on the outside they are laughing on the inside and when they walk they are dancing and when they're dreaming they are awake!
I went out on limb writing for your Quixtar Backbone Project so I guess the poem above is just another risk, but in the meantime ... I pray that person wastes no time feeling sorry for me and hope he just gets really fucking pissed instead! Anger is a gift and I don't need his pity. Until then take care cause I think you are greater than your readers and yet realize I'm no better than the rest of them inside this biz or out ...
Also, you must not have received my last email editorial additions before you posted my entry so here it is for all to see as I think it is an important change for a more true hearted ending. Anyone who fails to see it is not someone I want to do business with in the first place because I'm an honest man and I believe in the following change of word choice.
"One More Thing,
At the very end when I say ... so please visit Planet IBO and contact
us if you would like working with my team.
could you replace that with ... "so please feel free to visit Planet
IBO and contact me if you think you might like working with my team or
even if you just want to make a connection. I have made some good new
friends inside this business but I would also really appreciate having
some good new friends outside this business as well. It's like that U2
song, 'I can't live with or without you'. Get to know me!"
As above so below.
Peace Qblog,
Peter/Avniel
Peter,
I made the edits and I apologize for not including them in the original post. That was my mistake.
Thanks again for your participation.
Eric J
Strange fellow. He'd make ordering a big mac more complicated than it needs to be.
No pickles, no cheese, no burger, no special sauce, no beef-fat dipped fries ... just a sesame seed bun with lettuce, tomatoe, and onion please ... and a diet coke mixed with minute lite lemonade ...
Is that such a tall order?
Peter the know-it-all wrote:
"No pickles, no cheese, no burger, no special sauce, no beef-fat dipped fries ... just a sesame seed bun with lettuce, tomatoe, and onion please ... and a diet coke mixed with minute lite lemonade ...
Is that such a tall order?"
Yecch! I'd rather have one of those crappola BLI meals along with a warm, stale beer.
Peter has something right, "Anger is a gift".
I should start quoting Zach de la Rocha more often....
That's why a lot of us are here. To turn our angst against the A/Q system into something positive -- to keep guys like Peter from turning into another Ambot.
If we can't stop the development, we can at least stun the conversion by pointing out the errors, misconceptions, half-truths and flat out lies.
Jenny7bot, Embot, Mikebot and Poorhouse Tonybot (my absolute favorite) -- you have all been disproved and shown to be the frauds you really are !!!
But after all this, I really don't care to take it further. I have picked up a few extra responsibilities around the office (working for that next promotion!), so my time has become more limited.
Just a few quickies and then I am done:
1. The Forbes Top 400 List just came out -- it represents the richest Americans alive today. It may or may not have the A/Q founders in there. But it does have 400 hard working entreprenuers who have created or carried a unique vision into the market place.
I implore you to find your own path and do the same. Trampling around like a sheep ambot and repeating the cycle of abuse via tool/function money is no way to make a living.
2. Begin with the end in mind. You can't take it with you when you are gone. So, think about what you ARE going to take with you when it is time to move into the Afterlife -- your love, your character, and your integrity.
From what I have seen & heard, A/Q does not propagate these qualities.
Find something that does.
That's it.
Good luck & God Bless.
dfdfdfdfdfdfdf
"No pickles, no cheese, no burger, no special sauce, no beef-fat dipped fries ... just a sesame seed bun with lettuce, tomatoe, and onion please ... and a diet coke mixed with minute lite lemonade ...
Is that such a tall order?"
Why go to McD's for THAT?
PW
Exactly. Now you're thinking PW. It's just the only way I could think to make a Big Mac order Kosher so it was a joke for Disenchanted IBO and all whom he represents but I do agree with him about being a strange fellow. A real stranger in a strange land. Also thank you DF ... Good Luck & God Bless to you as well ... Check out Dirtroad.org and her sister site sandybeaches.org ... they have nothing to do with Quixtar and everything to do with "your love, your character, and your integrity". Believe it or not that's the spirit I have poured into the creation of PlanetIBO whether you choose to explore it or not. Even if its just to email me your address so I can send you a favorite book called "Holy Beggar's Banquet" ... either way I'll see you there in this life or the next and maybe then we can break bread and talk in real time face to face and heart to heart about what's truly important in life. I know one thing's for sure ... it ain't about the money, and that's just because it seems like it's forever been man's only bottom line and the root of all evil. Not in the Afterlife! I say "Over my dead body!" Live long and prosper ... and keep teaching others to do the same.
B'Shalom,
Avniel
Mazel Tov Peter! It seems like you're starting to get the real true hang of things here.
And to think that I had you mistaken for one of those vishstunkuna quixbots that frequent this board.
So many mashugunas, so little time:-)
P.S. Please forgive my probable misspellings of the jewish terms that I listed. I would greatly appreciate it if you would point them out to me if that were to be the case.
Take Care,
'scam
Dear Qblog, Scam, and all Quixtar Blog readers. There is some very interesting new information on the front page of www.planetibo.com surrounding a controversy over my website that followed immediately after my Quixtar Backbone Project Entry #3 was published. I'm sure you're all gonna just love this! Feel free to post here for public dialogue about this issue but also please contact me privately through my site if you have any personal insight, inspiration, or support to offer ... Honestly, I could really use it.
Sincerely,
Peter
Dear Qblog, MLM Scam, and all Quixtar Blog readers. There is some very interesting new information on the front page of www.planetibo.com surrounding a controversy over my website that followed immediately after my Quixtar Backbone Project Entry #3 was published. I'm sure you're all gonna just love this! Feel free to post here for public dialogue about this issue but also please contact me privately through my site if you have any personal insight, inspiration, or support to offer ... Honestly, I could really use it.
Sincerely,
Peter
Oh Yeah,
Shana Tova, Bracha, V'Simcha!
B'Shalom,
Avniel
I really do not understand why people keep criticing Quixtar...
All the critics say the kingpins are the ones pushing the tools and promising everything without giving people the help they need... Why not speak negative about them? shut the kingpins down and help the honest IBOs. If they are claiming garuntees of get rich quick with no work, then that is illeagal! and it is against the quixtar rules. So why does Quixtar not kick the kingpins out? well if you ever listen to a seminar or tape you might realize they seem to always use the "right" words to get you thinking that it is a garuntee, without really saying it. And for what that brainwashed IBO says in the living room? its not on tape!? how can you prove it?
So why not help Quixtar get rid of these dishonest IBOs by not buying the damn tools... If you are an IBO, member or client go to the Quixtar website and order some self help and motivational books. Doesn't that make sense? why are you giving the buisness to the kingpins and not YOUR founding buisness?. Talk to the honest IBOs for help, If you think your IBO is not honest, Get fostered by one that is!
Quixtar gives anyone the opportunity to buy their own retail buisness. Quixtar already has the high quality products ready, product cost comparisons and pamphlets, the payment processing ready and shipping set up for you to use at the cost of around $87 Canadian a year!. Plus you have the ability to franchise the same buisness model. thats all. any objections?
Peter uses the "confusing beat-reporter" approach to explain why the quixtar opportunity is so fantastic., but totally ignores the business principles and actual facts behind the Kingpin IBO empire.
On top of that, he likes to underscore his babble using religious overtones to make it appear that what he is stating is the actual law of the land, rather than making his position appear to be the true and shameful promotion of an illegal & unethical scam that it is.
He kind of reminds me of the character Nino Brown played by Wesley Snipes in "New Jack City", where Nino was a major drug dealer who always quoted christian scripture to describe the reasonings behind his unmerciful ruling of his illegal drug empire, that included terrorizing law-abiding citizens into not stepping out of line.
AM I MY BROTHER'S KEEPER???
YES I AM!!!
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