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August 7, 2005
Turkey Interview
By QBlog in Quixtar
An interview with Eric Scheibeler was recently published in a Turkish Magazine. If you know Turkish then check out the article and let me know what it says. I'm curious to find out if there's any mention of Turkish Baths or Turkish Prisons.
» Eric Scheibeler Interview In Turkey (pdf)
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It was a happy day when I escaped from the Turkish prison in Istanbul!
http://www.amquix.info/images/escape_turkish_prison.jpg
The Turkish prison in the movie "midnight express" is now a Four Seasons Hotel!
http://www.fourseasons.com/istanbul/index.html
Western nations fear muslim countries acquiring nuclear technology because muslim radicals are prone to making suicide attacks. Strangely enough, radicals also seem to be prone to taking over the nation's government (i.e., the Taliban in Afghanistan and the radicals in Iran). If a radical is in charge of the government and has nuclear arms, what's to stop him from using them? When was the last time you saw or heard of a suicide bomber who wasn't a muslim?
Ugh, I hate when people bastardize history. True, the US is the only country that has used those weapons during war. However, you need to understand why the US used those weapons against Japan. The Japanese were preparing to fight an American invasion of Honshu (the big island) down to the very last woman and/or child. They did not feel that surrender was a reasonable option. Allied losses would have been horrendous, but the Japanese people might have been completely destroyed. Using the weapons the way the US did showed the Japanese that surrender is reasonable and saved lives on BOTH sides.
I won't even try to address the whole comparison between the US and Nazis. Whoever makes that comparison is obviously someone who is really stupid and/or ignorant of what, how, and why the nazis did what they did. They might also have some political agenda/axe to grind and aren't going to let the facts get in their way (i.e., Dick Durbin, US Senator from Illinois). Although, I think Senator Durbin fits both categories.
When was the last time you saw or heard of a suicide bomber who wasn't a muslim?
When was the last time you saw or heard of a carpet bomber who wasn't american?
When was the last time you saw or heard of a suicide bomber who wasn't a muslim?
When was the last time you saw or heard of a carpet bomber who wasn't american?
And I also hate when people bastardize history. Super power is doing what super powers does, why make it look good?
Imran,
I have to disagree with your comparison. How does anyone justify suicide bombing by showing what US is doing wrong. That simply is not an excuse. Honestly we as Indians know how wrong is US in its policies.
I don't know much about Islam. Never studied it. But it seems the religion is overrun by extremists who want to establish 'Allah's rule' all over the earth. that my friend is sad truth. Unless moderate, peace and family loving muslims stand up to these guys, this situation will get worsen.
If you want examples of muslim extremism, lets see... shall we?
India(kashmir), Afghanistan, Russian, Indonisa, Malaysia, Phillipines, Iraq, Iran, Armenia, US, UK, Spain, Sudan, nigeria, algeria, chad, morroco, turkey, egypt, israel, palestine, Saudi Arabia... and we are barely scratching the surface here.. And pls don't tell me all these are happening/ happened because of USA.
Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against regular muslims. one of my close friends is a muslim. He is normal family guy who loves sports and hang out with friends. He absolutely hates these mullahs who preach hatred to young and impressionable minds. Unless guys like you and him stand up and tell the mullahs to shove it, we will continue to have this problem with terrorists. the first step in fixing the problem is accepting it.
I hope you take my post in the sense it is intended to be.
Ok parsad, I will only talk about one point you raised, rest please come to the politics section of the forum, if u wish.
Kashmir / Muslim extremist. Interesting! Kashmir has Muslim majority, it should be part of Pakistan. No? As Kashmiris wanted. And still do. India refused to conduct neutral elections. Didn't it? India is occupying it. Kashmir wanting freedom become "extremist"?
Isn't india occupying Kashmir wrongfully?
So you conviently ignored the rest? good job. I am sure even London bombers have their justification like this and also serbian christians have thier justfication... this is exactly what I was talking about.. there are peaceful ways to solve things. Oh and by the way there are more muslims dying becuase of your 'Freedom fighters' in kashmir. I am sure thats ok with you as long they kill in the name of the religion.
Ok Kashmir has majority muslim population. agreed. why kick hindu's out? you can keep them and ask for freedom..isn't it? Are these 'Majority muslims' are trained not to live peacefully with any other religion? So in your sense majority means only muslims should live there and everyone else should go become refuggees??
Parsad, I'm not ignoring any thing. I can go on like ur pal Tony here. There is a section for it in the forum.
And no, no body is kicking out Hindus out of Kashmir. Majority of Kashmiris don't want to live under India. They have a right to live free, just like you. Don't they? India is forcefully occupying Kashmir isn't it? Who is killing Kashmiris? Indian Army, no? So if Kashmiris accept to live as slaves under India, it's fine? Where did the name of religion came from? It seems to be the boogey man. Freedom movement which you don't like, BAM, religion.
Who is doing this killing? Indian army to keep their wrong occupation.
Parsad> Are these 'Majority Muslims' are trained not to live peacefully with any other religion?
Imran> What are you talking about? There are 1 Billion Muslims in the world. every 5th or 6th person that is? Aren't they living peacefully?
Parsad> here are peaceful ways to solve things.
Imran> Yes, India should have conducted elections, according to UN. It is ignoring and using force like 50 years.
Parsad> Ok Kashmir has majority muslim population. agreed. why kick hindu's out? you can keep them and ask for freedom..isn't it?
Imran> What the…. No one is kicking anyone out. Where did you get that? Problem is India, the country’s wrong hold on Kashmir by force. There are still Hindus living in Pakistan. No body kicked them out? And asking for freedom is pending from 50 years. UN asked India to hold election, India refused. Still is.
Parsad> So in your sense majority means only muslims should live there and everyone else should go become refuggees??
Imran> You are putting words in my mouth. I asked every one has right to live freely. Is it wrong? I don't know where did you get kicking minorities out? OR, if there is a Hindu minority, which is in many countries including America and Canada, majority should give up their government and India should rule that country?
I repeat again, India is supposed to conduct an election on Kashmir, a neutral, fair election and let Kashmiris decide. UN voted yes on it. India didn't do and continue to hold Kashmir. Kashmiri are struggling for their freedom. Indian army is killing them like 50 years and numbers are much more than 9/11 victims. Yet India is right and Kashmiris are wrong and they are extremist?
How does anyone justify suicide bombing by showing what US is doing wrong. That simply is not an excuse.
What is wrong with you? I'm not justifying it. I'm calling it bad, as bad as bombing is. Any bombing who kill innocent people. Every one call Suicide Bombing bad but quite happy with US carpet bombing and killing much more innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan. People they 'freed'. Seems to be u r justifying that.
But it seems the religion is overrun by extremists who want to establish 'Allah's rule' all over the earth. that my friend is sad truth.
That's not true. These extremists are rarely selected by people. E.g. no one voted Saddam or Bin Laden. There are some organizations like Al-Qaeda etc. yes. But what about state terrorism? e.g. a country occupying other country or part of it? No religion / Allah there. Is it right? Good than 'extremist'? How?
Unless moderate, peace and family loving muslims stand up to these guys, this situation will get worsen.
They are getting up. Extremist parties in Pakistan lose elections badly don't they? They are losing elections like 50 years, don't they?
Pakistan never attacked India, India attacked Pakistan 3 times.
I have nothing against regular muslims.
I wish I could agree with you. Or you are just repeating what media is saying.
one of my close friends is a muslim. He is normal family guy who loves sports and hang out with friends. He absolutely hates these mullahs who preach hatred to young and impressionable minds.
So tell me, are these people in majority or not? Remember, every 6th person is Muslim.
See, I can post long messaged here, admittedly I started it. It was against the movie portraying Islam as 'bad' So I'm the one asking, we should go to the 'politics' section of the forum and talk it out.
Regarding England, here is a good example of media use of words
http://tim.2wgroup.com/blog/archives/001013.html
Regarding Palestine, same situation there. Israel is occupying it. It was Palestine, and Israel occupies it by force. Which is, according to you, right, and Palestine wanting freedom is wrong?
So you are saying muslims never kicked kashmiri pundits out. Way to go. i thought you are rational. I didn't know you can lie to justify your arguments. Your majority arguments sounds a lot like Quixtar's dialogue... 'all these millions of distributors can't be wrong. can they?' Why talk in the forum when we can talk here.
If you think what Muslims doing in Kashmr is right, then what Israel is doing is right. What US is doing right. Oil prices are going up. US is killing few muslims so americans can lead their life stlye. Whats wrong in it?? If ameican life style improves by killing more muslims grabbing more oil, good for Americans. Who am I to question that? Oh and by they way Osama Bin Laden and Aub musab...whatver is doing world a favour. They are showing the extreme side of islam to the world. Without them the whole world would be thinking its a 'peaceful' religion and Majority want to live peacefully with rest of the religions. In reality, its the other way around. there are a few like my friend who despise 'extremism' and there are a lot of people who love it.
I am sure peacuful muslims are killing africans in Sudan because they occupied some land. :-) Same with Armenia. Oh by the way good job of killing children in Russia. I am sure muslims will get freedom much faster that way.
This can go on for ever. In forum there is a specific section for politics.
Most of what u r saying, is media based. One side of the media, that is. I can show you other side.
Rest is lame, emotion based. Fighting for freedom is different than terrorism and killing people for greed. You are mixing these two. UN made it's resolution didn't it? It's being refused to date didn't it?
And you totally misrepresented the history. Whole Kashmir was sold at 80,000 rupees. No?
I am sure even Indian amry have their justification like this.
Unless educated/rational people like you can accept that there is Islamic terrorism, yes you're right. sadly this will go on forever. Yes if the world says it media based. But miraculosuly musims know the correct side of every argument
Why the whole world is blaming only Islam and not any other religion.... oh I get it.. its a media conspiracy against ISLAM. so we should ignore it. yeah right!!!
Read my first post I said, you religion is overrun by extremists and normal muslims are not saying anything. You tried to twist the topic into kashmir and saying India attacked Pakistan etc.
And your point of Hindus being minority in North America. yes we are minorities but one of the best there is. If you want to compare Hindus' and muslims contribution here, pls be my guest. We are pioneers in medicine, technology, customer service and what is the muslims' contribution? A lot of Halal meat shops and a bunch of mullahs who preach terrorism against the world. The difference is so glaring, its difficult to ignore.
Oh and by the way most of these London terrorists are trained in the 'SECULAR' pakistan. I am sure you will dismiss that as an abberation just like you refused to accept the fact that islamic terrorists kicked kashmiri pundits out.
Remember!! unless muslims accept that their is a problem with extremism, they will never solve it.
Parsad, you didn't answer my question and danced around to different things.
India did not obey UN resolution (50 years)
India was supposed to have election on Kashmir,
India is wrongfully occupying it and killing Kashmiris by the hour.
And you call Kashmiris the problem. That is wrong.
Why the whole world is blaming only Islam and not any other religion.... oh I get it.. its a media conspiracy against ISLAM. so we should ignore it. yeah right!!!
After sept. 11, it is. Isn't it? It was communists before. You can't say there isn't media bias. Look how the discussion started, a Turkish prison being real horrible. And I said show me some non-horrible one? Abu Gharib? And no, it’s not conspiracy as such. Media does what sells. People wanna read about terrorism, there ya go,.
Read my first post I said, you religion is overrun by extremists and normal muslims are not saying anything. You tried to twist the topic into kashmir and saying India attacked Pakistan etc.
This is lame.
- I explained that normal Muslims hardly ever vote extremist militant party. See the history of Pakistan. It is when they have a choice. Usually military leaders come to power by force, not by selection. Name any nut job extremist Muslim elected? Saddam, Bin Laden?
BUT
Look at India. It took aggression against Pakistan three times. Two times under Indra Gandhi She was elected right? What does that shows? It shows India and a typical Hindu hatred towards Pakistan. You are a wonderful example. You just ignore those issues don't you? See, India is also run by extremist, give the history.
- They have occupied Kashmir.
- They attacked Pakistan 3 times
- Sikhs also need freedom buddy, don't they?
- They are suppressing Tamil nation as well?
- There is religious extremist party in India too. Bharti Janta Party a.k.a BJP.
And your point of Hindus being minority in North America. yes we are minorities but one of the best there is.
You are starting a new argument. I never said who is better minority and who is not. I don't agree that Muslim contribution is only limited to Halaal shop and Mullahs, but I won't debate on it.
I'm Muslim, I work in technology and I know many other Muslims who do too. I count my self Muslim in mosque. And in Halaal shops. Outside, I'm North American and this is my home. Compare me with North Americans. Get over your ‘community’ system.
Parsad> Oh and by the way most of these London terrorists are trained in the 'SECULAR' pakistan.
Imran> Agreed. Supported by government? Or are they criminal in Pakistan?
All of Indian army occupying Kashmir killing Kashmiris is trained in India.
Pakistan is not 'Secular'. It's official name is 'ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of Pakistan'. India is the one claiming to be 'SECULAR' with BJP gaining majority like crazy. Isn't it ironic?
Parsad> I am sure you will dismiss that as an abberation just like you refused to accept the fact that islamic terrorists kicked kashmiri pundits out.
Imran> I'm not dismissing it, but that pundit story is misleading. They left Kashmir themselves, just like many Muslims left India. Read the history. in 1947, century's largest migration took place. Many Muslims were forced to leave India and come to Pakistan as refugee. Weren’t their riots and their properties burned? Many were brutally killed along the way by Hindu extremists. Violence in Pakistan was 0 as compared to what Hindus did. (Which main reason was there weren’t much hindus in Pakistan, there were lot of Muslims in India.) And you are calling Muslim extremist? Also, weren’t India against the separation as well denying Muslims their free country? Ah, the beloved Gandhi!
Ask some old person in your family, what happened in 1947. Ask some 'victory details'.
Parsad> Remember!! Unless Muslims accept that their is a problem with extremism, they will never solve it.
Imran> Yawn. What problem are you talking about? Some militant group supplied and trained by super powers? Yes it is a problem. Muslims are not the one supplying weapons to these groups, are they? Some militant groups, who are hardly supported by Muslim government, and ironically used by US at times (Bin Laden inc. who is wanted criminal in Saudi Arabia), do something stupid. Majority hates it. Yet tt's Muslims who are extremist. True, they manage to recruit some people, but these recruiting become quiet easy given what happened to many innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, and about to in some more countries. Perhaps Iran / Pakistan and Syria. American want it apparently.
If super powers start funding and training Koreans or Indian extremist group as well, there will be a problem there too. What’s happening in Sudan is real bad. As bad as say Rwanda. This is the whole point I’m making. Some one who admits Islam stay exactly as much human being like any one else. Painting them with a brush that they are extremist is wrong. They are not more extremist than any one else.
India extremist party BJP is gaining popularity like crazy. India is denying Kashmiris, Sikhs and God knows how many other nations their freedom, and they don't have a problem? They are not overrun by extremist? extremist who are extremist enough to deny US resolution for 50 years?
Seriously, join political section of the forum. We will even discuss the 'satti' ritual of Hindus, where the female widow is burned alive with the dead body of her husband. And cast system in Hinduism. There are 4 casts right? Which one are you from, upper / lower?
Then you can tell me there which Mullah you actually heard here spouting hatred? I promise you, I’ll personally contact them. Or it is just something you 'heard'? I'll also show you work done by many scholars to fill the gap cause by latest world events. I have been to Islamic School of my youngest brother. I have seen and heard what he is taught there. No hatred there.
You can team up with Doug G, Mastda and ex-dd. I'll bring LawDawg and PW (two of the few liberals in whole 800 republicans). We'll have a wrestling match, and a pissing contest.
I try not to get into heated political discussions, but count me in as one of the forum members who is a left-wing, bleeding heart, tree-hugging, free speech, make love, not war, tie-dyed, hippie-liberal.
Great, we got 4 ppl in our team too. I was cool with the 'handicap' match though, as long as DF is arbitrator, err, referee.
Imran,
You are a typical muslim who refuses to accept the facts. Show me MUSLIM contibution to world except halal meat shops and terrorists. No wonder the whole world hates muslim terrorists and you are doing your best trying to portray India as bad. With you anti non-muslim agenda, I am sure you will do well in a mosque, than working in IT.
So next time US carpet bombs a muslim country, I am sure its for a good cause. They want oil and they are killing muslims and a few extremists on the way. there is nothing wrong in USA protecting its turf. Israel is right in its self defence. Killing a a few terrorists will do a whole lot of good to the world than bad.
Instead of debating the issues i asked, you are hung up on some nonsense. If you are saying Hindu pundits left voluntarily, then I will have you believe Bush deserves a nobel prize for getting rid of a few muslims from the world. This is how ridiculous your argument is. In your words, "Yes Paksitan and all other MUSLIM countires do recognize/respect other religions. Only India doesnt respect other religions." "spoken like a true muslim". In every country where there is a muslim majority, it is a muslim country. But in countries where their number is less, they talk about secularism, equal rights etc... Now you consider yourself a north American.. great.... North American who hates America... wondeful... see the irony here.
Like I said, that Abu musab guy is doing a favor. he is killing his own muslims by a bunch. Why don't you question motives like him rather than a country that is light years ahead of muslims countries in every aspect. We have our president is a Muslim and PM is Sikh. Show me one muslim country that has non muslims in a powerful post. Then we will know who the biggest bigots are.
There are about 100 hunderd countries that are being affected by muslims and I am sure you will say muslims are innocent in every aspect.
As long as muslim terrorists threaten the world, more muslims die.. its called Karma. if you don't know look it up. For every American dying in Iraq, there are about 100 muslims dying.. Its not a good ratio because some of them are innocent. But for people like Abu and Bin Laden that ratios seems to be working fine. They are intensifying the efforts every day. And with every car bom that goes of day by day, there must be people in Madarassas jumping with joy.. just like they celebrated 9/11 and belsan school killings.
A pakistani, who exports terrorists to the world, is blaming India... what a wonderful concept!!!! oh by the way if you dont keep up with current affairs, BJP lost elections last year. Congress is in power and Manmohan Singh is our PM. Dictators are not running the country. The world left that concept to muslims to be ruled by dictators and thugs and military generals. We are happy with a thing called DEMOCRACY, which is a alien concept for muslims.
Parsad, u r acting like a child. What issue you raised I did not answer? I tried to answer every one of them. You NEVER answered my question about India not following UN resolution. I should say like you did that you are a typical Muslim hating Hindu.
Parsad> So next time US carpet bombs a Muslim country, I am sure its for a good cause.
Imran> you showed ur colors. I am sure
Parsad> there is nothing wrong in USA protecting its turf.
Imran> they are not. They abandoned search for some one they were after and using that as a cover attacked for oil.
Parsad> Israel is right in its self defence.
Imran> Israel occupied other country. Weren't British defending their turf in war of independence?
Parsad> Like I said, that Abu musab guy is doing a favor. he is killing his own muslims by a bunch. Why don't you question motives like him
Imran> I never condoned him and yes, he's clearly wrong.
Parsad> If you are saying Hindu pundits left voluntarily, then I will have you believe Bush deserves a nobel prize for getting rid of a few muslims from the world
Imran> Read what I said. They left as 'voluntarily' as Muslims left India. That’s what I said. Numbers were much greater of Muslims leaving, weren’t' they? Remember ‘Balwas’? According to your own logic, Pakistan should have occupied India so Muslims don't have to become 'refugee'.
Its might is right, plain and simple.
Parsad> Instead of debating the issues i asked, you are hung up on some nonsense.
Imran> UN resolutions are non sense? History of India starting war is non-sense? What issues you asked exactly? All you said is majority of Muslims are dangerous to the world.
Parsad> Now you consider yourself a north American.. great.... North American who hates America... wondeful... see the irony here.
Imran> I don't hate America. I don't like many American policies. North America includes Canada too. Best part of North America ;)
Parsad> In your words, "Yes Paksitan and all other MUSLIM countires do recognize/respect other religions. Only India doesnt respect other religions." "spoken like a true muslim".
Imran> I didn't say that. Didn't I say "Muslim are as good or bad as any one else". You are putting words in my mouth. Spoken like a true Hindu.
Parsad> We have our president is a Muslim and PM is Sikh.
Imran> Great. How many Muslims and Sikhs have died in violence in India? Btw President is basically dummy and PM is actualy ruler in India form of government. Because of that Muslim president and Sikh PM, Sikhs are not getting Khalistan and Kashmiris are not getting their freedom, are they?
Or tell me, you want them to?
Also, is the number of Sikhs and Muslim in high post is equivalent of their number in population?
Parsad> There are about 100 hunderd countries that are being affected by muslims and I am sure you will say muslims are innocent in every aspect.
Imran> Hmm, every 5th or 6th person is Muslim, sure they are effected. Good way or bad way? I didn't say they are innocent in every aspect. I said they are as good or bad as any one else.
100 countries are affected by US policies too.
100 countries were affected by WW1 and WW2 too,
100 countries were affected by colonialism too.
So far, 5 countries, mainly US and now Britain who are target of Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda which is 'wanted' in many Muslim countries as well, and was once supplied and trained by US, and not officially supported by any Muslim country.
Parsad> As long as muslim terrorists threaten the world, more muslims die
Imran> Terrorist for any nation are bad for that nation. That is karma. But you keep forgetting who created Saddam and Bin Laden.
I hate Bin Laden and Saddam much more than you, trust me. So does many Muslims. They were once on ‘payroll’ of US, weren't they? But just declaring whole nation as a terrorist is right? Hitler was Christian, wasn't he? Christianity is a Nazi religion now by your logic?
Parsad> just like they celebrated 9/11 and belsan school killings.
Imran> You are referring to that video of
kids celebrating after 9//11? That was a fake video of 1992. It was also in news.
Parsad> A Pakistani, who exports terrorists to the world, is blaming India... what a wonderful concept!!!!
Imran> An Indian, who is denying freedom to at least two nations, is saying India is light years a head...what a wonderful concept!!!!
Btw Pakistan never officially supported terrorist. They helped US didn't they? Blaming Pakistan for terrorist is like blaming US for Mafia, some thing their own police is always after.
India light year ahead? There is so much hunger and poverty there. I have visited India. Have you? True, big cities like Bangalore are matching Seattle, but how about an average Indian?
Parsad> BJP lost elections last year. Congress is in power and Manmohan Singh is our PM.
Imran>Great. You finally admitted they were once in power? Power means majority of Hindus selected an extremist party?
When did majority of Muslims elected an extremist?
Indra Gandhi, who was of congress, attacked Pakistan twice.
Parsad> Dictators are not running the country.
Imran> Thank you, that was my point. That means India’s actions reflects the will of its people. Occupying Kashmir and Khalistan, attacking Pakistan, all that.
Parsad> Show me one Muslim country that has non Muslims in a powerful post. Then we will know who the biggest bigots are.
Imran> There are two Christian MPAs in Islamabad only. And they are always elected.
In many Muslim countries, non-muslim population is very little. In Paksitan it’s less than 1%. But in India there are more Muslims than even in Pakistan. No? Are they represented nearly an iota of what there number is? Talking of bigots.
How many Hindus are given employment in Arab states, e.g. UAE etc.?
Parsad> The world left that concept to Muslims to be ruled by dictators and thugs and military generals.
Imran> Is it the choice of people?
- Who ‘installed’ king Saud in Saudia Arabia?
- Who supplied Saddam
- Who once supported and paid every official of Talibaan?
- Which agency has overthrown 20 or more democracies?
Parsad> We are happy with a thing called DEMOCRACY,
Imran> A DEMOCRACY which is denying DEMOCRACY to Kashmir against UN resolution, and suppressed Tamil and Sikh freedom movements.
Seriously, come to politics section for wrestling match.
Imran,
It is no surprise that you have such views. Remember you have been warned by me not to bring in your Islamic radical views, and any Anti India views on this blog or the wiki of quixtar.
Do you have any Idea of what democracy is? I thought you living off a western country, would have learnt your lesson, but it is nice to see you bring your hate to this forum. Plese post more and help all these people learn more about you and the breed like you. Do you know there is democracy in Kashmir and there are elections and people are elected in kashmir and Kashmir assembly has voted to become part of India? Do you even remember when the last democratic elections have taken place in Pakistan. If not please read up before you jump up on this topic. It is no screct on who supports the terrorists in the world. Any terrorist action, anywhere in the world, leads the links only to one place in the world "Pakistan". This is not a pakistani forum, and on any neutral forum your bund will be hunted back to where ever you are from, if you try your hate agenda.
Also for you information, please give what form of constitution is practiced in Pakstan, before you comment on Kashmir.
Do you know when it was formed? and who can over ride it?
Please tell me where do the previous prime ministers of pakistan live? why are they afrid to go to pakistan?
Why is it that President of pakistan appoints the prime minister in Pakistan?
Why is it that thre president of Pakistan wears a military uniform even now - To preach democracy?
Please list how many judges have quit and why they have quit when asked to ratify President of Pakistan for doing a military take over in Paksitan.
Do you want me to post all the comments by previous Prime ministers of Pakistan over here. Do you want me to post year by year how many years pakistan has been under the military dictatorship?
Do you want me post how many times Pakistan has militaryly attacked India or destabilised Afghanistan ?
Who is the creator of the Taliban?
Who rant he nuclear wal-mart in the world?
Who talked about the Islamic Bomb?
Do you want me to post how many times GOP has pakistani army dressed in plain cloths have tried to attack India?
Do you want me write about the genocide of Pakistani army in 1971 or in Baluchistan?
Do you know which Army signed a peace treaty with the terrorists?
Do you want me to post which nation has allowed the terrorists (declared by USA, and even Pakistan) to conduct meetings openly in their country.
How many Muslim male people have to testify before it is accepted in a Pakistani court that a woman is raped?
Do you want me to write about the reaction of the pakistani assembly on the honor killings of women?
Please stay way from exporting hatred on India on this forum.
You are all nuts. Why don't some of you go live in places like Palestine, Kashmir, Saudi Arabia and see what life is like. May be then you will get the idea why people get frustrated. Only freedom and democracy in these parts of the world will eliminate terrorism. So, dont blame the entire muslim world but blame those who control the life and freedom of the people in those parts of the world.
Funny how Turkey prisons are shown barbaric :) Look at the prisons here :) I really don’t think many of us can get out alive from some NY prison as ‘unbroken’ as we get in. It could be just few nights in lock up.
Perhaps the same reason Nazis are considered bad, real bad. real real real bad. So bad that badness is end. Those actions repeated by US army but heck, it's no nazi. It's nazi's who are the definition of bad. US being the only country ever used atom bomb but world is in real trouble if some muslim country aquire nuclear power. Real real real trouble. Scarlet alert time.
Just some positive criticism. I hope it helps.
Posted by: Imran | August 7, 2005 6:56 AM