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July 5, 2005
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Have you been sneakin' around my garage?
Gives me the shivers looking at that lot!
I can't help but think of all the wasted plastic there!
Just think.. all that plastic destined to end up in a landfill somewhere!
It's only wasted if you don't use it. Kinda like paying $90 for a college textbook and never opening it - now that's a waste!
I am so sick and bored of Tony trying to compare every frickin tool and tape to college and textbooks.
Tony - Nobody can guarantee success in any endeavour. College is not high school. You are treated as adult and the decisions u take (buinyg books and attending classes) will guarantee u success. U might say this is true in Q*. But the analogy stops right there.
In college, u can look up to a lot of people, who are successful, when they graduated. Check your seniors, alumni. For ex, I am in computer science field. There are more than 100,000 jobs in this field. And I know right now (every 8 out of 10 students graduating in this field) will get a job.
But in the business, there are relatively very few diamonds (less than 100) I can look upto to guarantee success rate.
To be honest, I have seen more people lose money in the business via the system than people who make money. Again don't talk about the "committed" factor. Any person who willingly buys the tapes, books and follows the nine core steps are committed and these people I knew were like that.
See, I lost a lot of money in tapes. So, I will give a negative opinion about Q* to anyone who asks my advise. I don't frickin care when some q* members come and tell me that, I was not committed and hence I never made it. So its a story of sour grapes. See for that matter, if I had a bad expereince with a restaurant or if I did not like a movie, I do tell my friends not to eat at that particular place or not to watch the movie. I do not see movie lovers getting all geared up and give me "movie talk" like the "tape talk".
Why do q* IBO get so defensive. In fact even I was like that when I was a member. Is there some subliminal mesaages in the tapes????
Tony, it's wasted. And thousands--dare I say millions?--of people who went deeply into debt to buy that stuff agree with me. And I still have--and use-- many of my college textbooks, FYI.
Raj, who's getting defensive? All I said was its only wasted if you don't use it. If you used (or use) the tapes then they're not wasted. Thats all. Sorry you get so offended when I compare our books and CD's to college books and CD's. But guess what... I ain't gonna stop... ever. Wanna know why? Cause they're very comparable! Both are designed to educate, to teach you something. Only ours are a hell of a lot cheaper!
Oh, and I adamantly disagree with your statement that in college "the decisions u take (buinyg books and attending classes) will guarantee u success."
GUARANTEES success?? Are you serious! Buying books and going to class in college don't guarantee JACK! Heck, even a DEGREE doesn't gaurantee you Anything!! You are Way off base with that logic!
And Christy, congrats! You are definitely in the minority if you're still using "many of your college textbooks". And it ain't been "millions who've gone deeply into debt". Most people are deeply in debt anyways, without this business. I think Quixtar is a way out of it. Most people who are saying they went into debt are counting the cost of the products!
I use the products I buy, so I don't count that as a loss - I got the product! Also, I use the tools I buy, so they're not a waste! Maybe you wasted the tools, I'm not. But good luck in whatever endeavor you wish to pursue.
Actually, for the majority of the purchasers, the 'tools' are wasted even when they do 'use them'.
A college student who purchases and uses his text books, and shows up to class will in all likelihood (meaning statistcally more than 50% of them) graduate and find employment (self employment or a job) that pays over $10,000 a year more, on average, than the average salary of a high school graduate. This difference in salary only widens with the passage of time.
An IBO who purchases and uses the tools will, in all likelihood (statistcally over 50%) drop out. Of those who DON'T quit, the average income is $115 a month, or about $1400 a year.
So, comparing apples to apples, we have the average college grad making $10,000 a year more than a HS grad, and the average IBO making $1,400, presumably over his other salary. It doesn't take a college degree to see which is the better 'investment'.
Additionally, the college kid has hopefully learned other useful skills (such as writing a coherent paragraph without resorting to hundreds of exclamation points to emphasize his theories) which translate to the real world.
Listening to Dex wax rhapsodic about knowing what it's like to be Jesus is unlikely to have a real-world benefit, and the few books that do have any real-world value are also available at the local library for free.
Another point:
As I recall from my college days, you were often able to purchase used textbooks and save some money that way. At the end of the semister, you could sell them back to the bookstore for a partial refund.
In my Amway experience (this was before Quixtar), there was no refund on the tools.
BS Scott! There are refunds on tools - up to 6 months! Try returning a book 6 months after the quarter ended! Not to mention, yes, you can buy a used college text book for say $75, they give you $7 at the end of the quarter, then they turn around and resell it for the $75 used price, over and over again!
Oh, and I have 100's of $$ worth of college texts that I couldn't return due to new editions, etc.
And once again CK NOT comparing apples to apples. Most IBOs ARE college grads or in college, making $10,000 more than those with just HS degrees, and $1400 more on top of that!
And yes you do learn many real-life skills from the business, and even if some of the books are available for free at the library, you can't keep them in your house, or give then to a downline at anytme if you don't own them. I could make the same arguement that you could of gotten some of your college text for free at the local library!
And finally, let's examine his statement of college grads making $10,000 more a year than HS grads. What does college cost now a days. With tuition, board and books, labs fees, etc. it is anything to spend $100,000 on 4/5 years of college? Not at all! And also, by doing so you gave up time. You could have worked F/T even just mowing lawns and MADE $25,000 a year in those 4 years, so that's $100,000 you missed out on, making the total COST of college $200,000.
But like CK said, we're gonna make $10,000 more than most HS grads. So what's that come out to... 20 YEARS to make back your initial investment!
Hmm. Just food for thought.
CK nails it. Pay for four (or more) years of college and on average, it will pay back $10,000 a year after graduation. If a person works for 40 years, that's an extra $400,000, which will far more then pay for the cost of college.
Pay for tools, and on average, you only make an extra $114/month. If the tools plus travel cost $200/month, the average IBO is losing money!
Therein lies the difference, Tony. The average college student can use his textbooks/tools and use it to his advantage. In contrast, the average IBO can use the tools and it is a disadvantage.
Sure you can ask yourself why be average, but over time, Amway North America/Quixtar's numbers have remained pretty constant. That means if you are the one above average, the numbers tell you most of your team will fall below average. So while you might be the exception and make money, odds are your downline won't. And when your downline doesn't make money, they quit, and it eats into your profit...and the cycle continues.
I still refer to my college textbooks every now and then. They are a good source of information.
What I got from tapes was lessons on how to effectively prepare people to get ripped off while making friends with them. The more I listened, the more fired up I got to keep doing it.
The tool system perpetuates itself - get people fired up to spend their money to learn how to get other people to spend their money.
That tool money goes from the shallow pockets of the deceived masses to the deep pockets of those rich guys at the top of the pyramid. Doesn't their conscience bother them? Or are they also victims of self-deception?
Why is this truth so hard to see from the beginning? It's actually not hard to see, just hard to believe.
The whole tool business just seems like a nasty, deceptive circle. No, it IS a nasty, deceptive circle. Just remember someone in a really nice, very exclusive suit is making a lot of money from it.
Tony,
You should read the fine print in the BSMAA about the refund policy.
http://www.amquix.info/quixtar_bsmaa_refunds.html
Quixtar's effective 'no' refund policy on tools
If one carefully reads the Quixtar BSMAA (Business Support Materials Arbitration Agreement), one would find that the refund policy guarantees very little for the typical tool consuming IBO. It would seem the BSMAA was written to primarily benefit those selling the tool systems rather than the low-level IBO.
The way the refund policy is structured, it virtually assures that the people making the most profit from the tools are not the ones responsible in the end for making refunds. The various policies from various Quixtar documents are listed at the bottom of this page.
There are several fine details that IBOs should know.
Extra tools or function tickets that are not purchased for an IBO’s personal use, are not covered by a refund policy1. This means extra tickets that you might buy for potential prospects are not covered by the refund policy. It would be best for an IBO to only buy function tickets for himself. Since the functions never sell out, there is no reason to buy extra tickets in advance. Sometimes discounted tickets can be bought from other IBOs who had bought too many.
Any IBO can be liable for making refunds to IBOs to whom they sold tools for personal use2. The BSMAA requires selling IBOs to buy back BSM’s, even if the selling IBO made no money on the sale. If you bought extra tickets for your downline to use and they wish to return them, you must make the refund. However since you did not buy the ticket for your own personal use, you are not eligible for a refund from your upline. You get stuck eating the cost of the tickets that your dowline returned.
Tools purchased for personal use are not assured a 100% money back guarantee. The BSMAA clearly states "on commercially reasonable terms"3. This means the amount you receive is up for negotiation.
Although the BSMAA does not state it, the Quixtar compendium states that function tickets are refundable after the function and provided the IBO attended the event.4 Some groups will require that you stay for the whole function to get a refund, even if you were disgusted with the function half way through.
A proof of purchase5 is required to qualify for a refund. Make sure you receive a receipt.
What does this mean for the average IBO? As soon as an IBO passes BSMs to their downline, and collects money for them, they technically become the seller and technically become liable2 for any refunds, even if they made no money from the sale. The selling IBO now has no return option to the person who sold him the tools since he had not purchased the tools for personal use1. Additionally, any IBO forgetting to get a receipt5 has no rights to a refund. If you pick up tools for your downline and they decide not to buy them, then you will have to pay for them yourself.
With all the exceptions and requirements, it is no wonder that some IBOs complain about never receiving a refund. The BSMAA is written to protect the people selling the tools systems from returns and not to protect the typical IBO consumer of the tools systems.
"But guess what... I ain't gonna stop... ever. Wanna know why?">T
'Cause you're a locked-in, hands-down, chest-hair rippin' fired up Quixtar distributor.
I give both you and Michael 2-5 years to come to your senses :-)
That wall of tools looks just like the floor of the dumpster I brought to clean out my garage, post-Amway. And that was AFTER I gave a bunch of tools/products away.
I did keep the books, though.
Tony, where did you get the idea that 'most IBO's are in college or are college graduates'? Care to cite a reference on that, or is this another infamous 'anecdotal factoid'?
I enjoyed that "$100,000 college cost" factoid, too. Where'd you get that one? And $25,000 is a pretty good starting salary for a HS kid. Where'd you get that statistic? US Dep't of Labor says a HS kid can expect a starting salary of more $18,500.
Additionally, the true average cost of a public college ($11,345 according to CNN Money, see how much you learn when you do a little research instead of making up numbers to support your foregone conclusion?) INCLUDES room and board, an expense one would have regardless of college attendence. In fact, the average cost of tuition and fees is $4000-$7000 a year. The HOPE and Lifetime Learning tax credits lower that number even more, for a cost of anywhere from $14,000 - $28,000 for a four-year degree. Add in a couple of thousand for books, and let's take the higher number, and let's say it costs $33,000 for a degree.
According to the US Census Department, the average college grad will make about 900,000 dollars more over his lifetime than the average HS grad. That $10,000 per year difference is in STARTING SALARY. So is four years of extended childhood and $33,000 initial expense worth an AVERAGE ROI of $867,000 over a lifetime? Duh.
Yet according to Amway's own statistics, the average IBO, regardless of time spent in the business, is grossing $115 a month, BEFORE any system expenses.
Even if we pretend that the IBO has no system expenses, that's much less than your aforementioned (and again, completely fabricated) lawn-mowing job pays.
In other words, you'd be better off mowing lawns.
This is a great post by lawDawg based with facts, evidence and real numbers.
http://mlmlaw.blogspot.com/2005/05/college-v-mlm-system.html
Us Census Department
High school graduates - $1.2 million
Bachelor's degree - $2.1 million
Master's degree - $2.5 million
Doctoral degrees - $3.4 million
Professional degrees do best at $4.4 million.
In 1999, average annual earnings ranged from $18,900 for high school dropouts to $25,900 for high school graduates, $45,400 for college graduates and $99,300 for the holders of professional degrees (medical doctors, dentists, veterinarians and lawyers).
And I love his conclusion:
Do the math rather than settling for this stinkin' thinkin'. And in case it isn't obvious, MLMers - when they talk about college - are often making false statements to try to scare people away from college and into a pyramid scheme. Why? Because they want you to waste your money on overpriced motivational tapes and seminars.
Tony:
Let's agree on an empirical method to test whether or not tools "work".
Let's see. Why don't we try this:
What proportion of "full system" IBOs are actually profitable after a reasonable time period?
Definitions:
"full system" means they attend every function for which they qualify, they are on standing order ( or whatever it is now) for tapes/CD's and books, they purchase the newest "support materials" when they come out, they have a tool library to hand out to their downline, they use Kate, their LOA's website tool, and they purchase all products possible from quixtar.
"reasonable time period" - how about 18 months?
"profitable" - in case you didn't know, that means you make money after all reasonable business expenses. (yes, I realize that buying products for yourself is not a reasonable business expense. So we'll leave that out, although it is certainly an UNREASONABLE personal expense to buy product you don't really want or need, or product you do but for a much higher price, just because Q happens to sell it.)
What, you say? Neither Quixtar nor the Lines of Sponsorship keep such data???? Why not? Why wouldn't they want to empirically prove that a good proportion of people using these "tools essential for success" are actually being successful by using them???
How odd!
You said: "I use the tools I buy, so they're not a waste! Maybe you wasted the tools, I'm not. "
If you're not wasting the tools, you're making a profit. Tell us about it.
Research vs. anecdotal factoid - I'm laughing so hard the tears are running down my legs!
OK, fence sitters, which will YOU take?
Truths
-or-
Factoids
$833,000.00 lifetime differential (not inflation adjusted), or $115/ month average, not adjusted for costs (including costs of lost opportunities)... Tough choice.
My suggestion: stay in school, become an truly independent IBO if you absolutely must (no tools, heck, buy 'em on Ebay for 2-3 cents on the dollar if you think you need 'em) and RETAIL.
The market will tell you the truth quickly. If your products are competative or uniquely desireable, you'll make money. If not, you won't have been sucked into the cult of "success" that the system creates; you bag the business, and move on to another opportunity.
Tony, Em, Michael: I hope that this is not too harsh. It is based on my personal experience and beliefs.
Hey, hey, hey!
Quixmire - please immediately refrain from using things like "empirical", "outcomes" and "market research" when you are talking about the QMO business!
It's not fair. Anecdotal is WHERE IT'S AT.
You, sir, are a victim of "stinkin' thinkin'", and that is not to be tolerated.
Why? "Cause I told you so.
So there - dispute THOSE numbers!
Tony:
The facts (as they have been presented above) should really start to MATTER now.
If you don't acknowledge the facts -- actual hard data -- then what are you left with...?
A garage full of tapes and cds!
If you are going to sit there and wait for some catchphrase or tapespeak to jog you out of your zombie-like coma (i.e. "maybe this time, I'll hear what I need to take my business to the next level") and propel you to multi-millionaire stardom, then you are no better than Linus waiting for the Great Pumpkin.
yes, damn me, I forgot.
The facts don't count!
The fact is, I had a dumpster which was quite full of 20 years of Quixtar/Amway tools, none of which helped me to make ANY money. But of course, that's just me. I'm an anomoly. EVEYRONE ELSE who uses the tools makes a healthy profit, and long-term residual income.
And just in case Tony decides to chime in with the "most people don't APPLY what they learn through the tools" :
If the stated purpose of the tools is to MOTIVATE and TRAIN (which it is), and if most people NEVER apply what the tools suggest or motivate them to do, how can the tools be considered successful?
And BTW, if MUCH of the stuff on those tools is all about why you need MORE tools, what does that tell you?????
Now Quixmire, that's just not fair!
Applying logic to the tools argument? Cyclical reasoning is the way to go; it's not right to expect a linear cause - effect from the program.
Don't you know anything? It's feelings, not facts, baby.
Get it straight, willya.
I don't want to have to warn you again!
:p
ROTFL, Keith Sr, Quixmire.... are you guys going to take that routine out on the road? You should. I about busted a gut laughing.
Ima
Ya know, I just might do that... after all, being a loser who posts on the bathroom walls of the internet and who QUIT on her dreams, I do need some extra income...
ROFLMBO!
(Actually, I make a nice tidy sum of money with my web work - and when I travel, the CLIENTS pay for it. )
Poor me!
The tapes all said the same thing so you did not need all that stuff anyway. Now do some research on all those great leaders and you will see that they are wolf's in sheep's clothing. They are divorced, have criminal charges, broke, having affairs and get on stages all over the world filling people with the SOS. Sounds like everyday life. So look at the fruit on the ground floor and see that it is rotten!
Yeah, but the tools are useful, aren't they Tony?
And the prices don't suck either.
When you wake up, you are going to feel stupid, stupid, stupid.
Quixmire, you fired this broke loser as well!
http://quixtarsucks.blogspot.com/2005/07/im-broke-broke-loser.html
I meant fired up ;)
When I first woke up I initially thought about trying to sell my 10 year collection of tapes, videos, books, cds on ebay.
There was only a "refund" on new unopened tools purchased before a certain date, so 99.9% of my tools I would have had to eat the cost anyways.
The more I thought about it, I realized that I would be helping to spread the lies and misinformation if I passed it on to someone else so I chucked them all in the dumpster. Took a few trips and now they'll be in a landfill somewhere. Seems a waste really.
We probably won't be hearing from Tony or any other IBOs from BWW this weekend. They have their qaurterly cult, er, "business" meeting. He's probably getting ready as we speak.
Hey Tony, if you see a my ex-wife with her adulterous boyfriend, ask her why she left her son with me on one of her few weekends she's allowed to visit him.
You already know the answer. I guess most IBO parents justify the time and expense with future illusions of staying home full-time.
Well my ex lost all rights to her son, because of that thinking. Any non-brainwashed person (like our judge) can see how ludicrous that rationalization is.
Hey JD, actually I was in Nashville 6/24-26 for our Summer Conference, so nope, no function This weekend. (But I will be out of town visiting relatives- wow an IBO spending time with family, maybe some ARE balanced.) Who's group is she in again? Would you mind giving me a name. Heck, give me her email, I'd like to give her a few words of encouragement, AND tell her she made a mistake by leaving you and then getting with 'whoever'.
As I've said before, I wouldn't Leave a spouse who was unsupportive, but I wouldn't quit the business either. I'd just build it without her. Which is what She should have done. Now if the unsupportive spouse wants to leave, thats on them. But I agree JD, she made a mistake, she never should've left or cheated. But people do make mistakes. Hopefully she does builds it big enough to achieve her dreams, which I'm sure includes spending as much time with Jona as possible. I am truly sorry for your loss, and totally understand your dispise of the business. I probably would to, although I would still be off-base since you can't truly hate an entire group of 400,000 based on the mistake of 1 or 2. But I would still be pissed, and assume its happening everywhere.
qmire> If you're not wasting the tools, you're making a profit. Tell us about it.
T> well lets see, after 2 years of college I had spent over $20,000 and hadn't realized a profit yet. In fact even after 4 years I still had the same co-op job I had before I had my degree, then went back to the job I had during most of my college career, it wasn't til 2 years later that I actually got a good job, that I'd like to attribute to my degree. But then like most people got hit by a company-wide layoff, and I was low man on the totem pole. But now I'm back making almost twice as much, but so is a friend of mine who is still working on her degree!
But I digress, my point is I wasn't wasting my textbooks 2 years in, 'cause I was using them, and down the road, one could argue it paid off!
So just like now, I'm not even 2 years in and I'm using the tools so that down the road, I WILL be make money! Cause I have a work ethic, a game plan and I'm sticking to it.
qmire> If the stated purpose of the tools is to MOTIVATE and TRAIN (which it is), and if most people NEVER apply what the tools suggest or motivate them to do, how can the tools be considered successful?
T> well hopefully that itsn't the case, I don't know that "most people NEVER apply what the tools teach", but just because some may not doesn't make the tools less important. There ARE people who are using the tools, (books, CDs, functions) and it IS helping them, greatly! So just because some don't, the tools aren't valid?
If I give you the key to a Lexus, and you never put it in the ignition & turn, how successful were you at starting that car? Not very, but does that mean that the key was no good? Does that mean that the car is junk? No, it means YOU didn't do Your part! How can you blame the key or car for that!?
Colleges have produced more successful people than Amway/Quixtar. Look at how many colleges exist and how few anti-college websites.
No question in my mind about the better investment here.
To be totally fair, a lot of things I wasted time in college didn't apply in real job. I'd venture to say only 60% of them are. I am Masters in Computer Sciences and working on the same field. More than 50% of Canadian work force is working on field different than they study so it may vary. Nonetheless, they are not likely to get those jobs if they haven't studied.
There are some things a person learns in College. E.g. be professional, meat deadlines, work hard, and most importantly, ability to analytically solve problems. Regardless of your fields, these skills apply everywhere.
tony said: So just like now, I'm not even 2 years in and I'm using the tools so that down the road, I WILL be make money! Cause I have a work ethic, a game plan and I'm sticking to it.
Quixmire says: So, you're in a bit less than two years, using the tools, and NOT making money. Fascinating. Sounds like you failed the test?
And what exactly IS your game plan? What is your actual vs forecasted income? Actual vs. forecasted number of personal and group downline? Actual vs forecasted expenses and gross income?
If you don't pay attention to those numbers, how do you know you're on track?
tony said: I don't know that "most people NEVER apply what the tools teach", but just because some may not doesn't make the tools less important.
Well, clearly, given the number of new diamonds each year relative to the number of people who purchase tools, ALMOST NO ONE applies what the tools teach. Unless they teach you to buy more tools. In which case, I would say the tools are quite successful, no?
Tony said: If I give you the key to a Lexus, and you never put it in the ignition & turn, how successful were you at starting that car? Not very, but does that mean that the key was no good? Does that mean that the car is junk? No, it means YOU didn't do Your part! How can you blame the key or car for that!?
I don't blame the car or the key, I blame the one who SOLD me the key (at an inflated price) and told me it would start the car and it doesn't. There is ALMOST NEXT TO NO possibility that the key will start the car, and the ones who've been selling the keys KNOW IT based on decades of PROOF.
If those keys worked, Tony, there would be a LOT more people driving around in those Lexus cars. But there aren't.
So we're back to where we started, which is, you have been spending money on "tools" for close to two years, you're not making any money, but you're going to "stick to the game plan" whatever that is. It's always "someone in my upline" who's making the big bucks, and you'll do it "someday".
And so the story always goes.
I'm confused now.
Tony states above that he is using the tools so that "down the road, I will be make money (sic)".
Didn't he earlier claim, in a comment to a previous blog entry, that he IS making money?
Maybe I'm confusing Tony with another poster, but if not, there seems to be another AmQuix 'truth stretching' going on here.
Yes, I am making money in the sense that every month I get a check from Qx, some for over $200. But when you figure $31 for Kate, $15 for my site, $38 for tools, most months (right now) I'm not making a lot. (Its called investing in yourself) But down the road I WILL be making a lot more! I don't have to look too far up my line of sponsorship for success, the very guy who registered me is over 8000pv, just got his $1000 Gold bonus, and is making about $2500 a month right now! And he's still in college! Tell him it doesn't work!
Here's a couple of questions, Tony. How much of your upline's check came from your purchases? How much came from the rest of his downline, and how much came from retailing products to members/clients?
If the majority of your upline's check came from his downline, think about it. You are now a struggling downline, not making much money/maybe even losing money when all expenses are taken into consideration. So, what would happen if you duplicated your upline?
You would then create a downline all in a situation where you currently reside. Struggling, making little if any profit, and most likely losing money.
So, what happens if/when you downline duplicates you? Do they not each create a bigger "downline" in a money losing situation? Sound like a pyramid scheme?
Tony's off base with comparing Q books and tapes to college books and classes. Although I will admit that some books have value, such as how to win friends and influence people, would be a good book for learning basic human behavior. That's where any similarity ends. In college, you learn a field of study, and some other broader perspectives. In the Q business, the tapes don't teach you tangible subjects. I've never heard a tape that teaches you how to file your business taxes, or how to set up a system to track expenditures and income or anything like that. I have heard tapes where a diamond talks about the hard times until he'she made the decision to go diamond. What does that teach you? What information or skill do you derive from that? It only reinforces the concept that you should not quit the business. There is no tangible skill that you can use to apply to the business or to a project outside of the Q business. And if you listen to certain tapes, you will see that the diamonds lie on tape. Such as Howie Danzik building the business as a single. This wouldn't be a big deal but I saw the Danziks at a function and they built the business togther. But I guess if they lie about other things, why not lie about that too??
Yeah, we all know that Tony is off base on the college textbook vs. motivational tapes thing. He's off base on a lot of stuff.
Tony is still confusing revenue with profit. Tony still doesn't have a income stream plan, nor forecasted revenue goals.
This isn't a big surprise. This is why I call him Turnedaround-Tony!
Ole TT is not concerned about the facts.
Which is why my previous post really sums up Tonybot:
"The facts (as they have been presented above) should really start to MATTER now.
If you don't acknowledge the facts -- actual hard data -- then what are you left with...?
A garage full of tapes and cds!
If you are going to sit there and wait for some catchphrase or tapespeak to jog you out of your zombie-like coma (i.e. "maybe this time, I'll hear what I need to take my business to the next level") and propel you to multi-millionaire stardom, then you are no better than Linus waiting for the Great Pumpkin."
Tony I think you are spending less money on Tools. You should spend more. Be in total submission to your upline. Listen to atleast 5 tapes a week. Listen to tape on christmas as well.
There is a difference between educational material and motivational material, and that seems to be where the analogy to textbooks breaks down. Textbooks are clearly educational, while the tools appear to be primarily motivational. This is not to say that motivational materials do not have there place, but do not confuse them with education...
"So just like now, I'm not even 2 years in and I'm using the tools so that down the road, I WILL be make money! Cause I have a work ethic,..."
So everyone who has not decided to live the dream, as you have chosen didn't have a work ethic?
I know I didn't mention that you have a game plan, but I think it can be conceded by anyone outside AmQuix that your game plan suck eggs.
2 years, and not making much eh? I wonder how that would translate into a real business, since all you Amwayians consider it a (polite cough) real business.
http://quixtarsucks.blogspot.com/2005/07/tools.html
Funny, I don't remember over 90% of my college texts being pep-rally, rah-rah, everyone who isn't in this biz is a loser/you're a winner, etc.
Woof, woof, Tony
Tool wallpaper???
Well, at least it's better than having the real deal!
Gives me the heebie jeebies looking at it!
hello sir i working in india (mumbai)
i want ur help,sir i need som wallpapwr ,like diamond and hope, financial freddom ,family like for to put on wall and computer ,pl if u have send me
thanks sidr
kishor y bokade
Ha! These are the tools which are on sale on eBay!
All active IBOs, y not u buy tools there ;) I could buy products there ;) But some one always outbid me at the last second :( But tools, not much competition.
Posted by: Imran | July 6, 2005 6:20 AM