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March 5, 2005
The Dirty Little Secret
By QBlog in
It's no secret that the Quixtar leadership abhors the so-called "negative Web sites," sites that are critical of their Quixtar business. Last year that loathing led to the creation of the "Quixtar Web Initiative" (also known as the Web Reputation Task Force) which I've explained elsewhere. The strategy of Quixtar's Web Reputation Task Force is simple and easy to understand:
- Sites that criticize Quixtar = Bad
- People who read those sites = Lost Business
- Remove those sites from the Web or make them almost impossible to find = Good
- Think of potential ramifications and possible backlash = Never
There are many problems with the WRTF strategy but one flaw is made perfectly clear by The Daily Pondering blog. That flaw? Quixtar forgot to tell the IBOs about the WRTF.
...walked into my local BORDER's Bookstore and began looking at various books, as I usually do at BORDER's. Not long after, I noticed that a female arrived to the same section and started looking at similar books...
...Then, the questions quickly became more personal... where I lived, where I graduated from college, where I worked, etc...
...she began telling me about her small business in "private franchising." This business gave her a flexible schedule. Not knowing what "private franchising" meant, I asked her to tell me what it was. Apparently, she thought this question meant that I wanted to be part of her business...
..."So, what is private franchising?". She responded with a very nebulous answer, "Well, you see, it is just very visual and might take a while to explain. It'd be better if we got together another time and I could tell you more about it."...
...When she called me back, I decided not to return her phone call...
You see, many IBOs haven't quite grasped the whole Web thing. They may be in an "e-commerce" business but they don't understand that each time they use the "Curiosity Approach" or the "Mysterious Meeting" method, that there's a good chance that the incident will end up on somebody's blog, like The Ponderer.
And since the WRTF is working furiously to bury all criticisms in a sea of spam, IBOs that employ the routinely criticized "Curiosity Approach" are just creating more work for the WRTF members. See the cycle?
Certain IBOs go out and piss off bloggers at bookstores, coffee shops and malls with their "Mysterious Meeting" methods. Those bloggers then go home and tell their critical story to the World (just like The Ponderer) which then adds to the total of "negative Web sites" which creates more work for the WRTF.
I think I hear laughing and it's not coming from Ada, Michigan.
Comments
Here is what Rich DeVos said about the strategy:
We have guys in the -- Legal field -- uh, Attorneys General -- who don't like our curiosity approach, and -- and, so we've tried to -- lay before the Diamonds and I'm trying to lay before you and -- and -- really asking for your help. We've got to find a way to make a better image.
You know, one of the reasons we use the curiosity approach is because people have preconceived ideas of what Amway is. You and I know what it really is, but they have a distorted or warped view; and therefore, if they thought they were coming to an Amway function, they would probably say "No" because of their preconceived ideas. Therefore, would we do is use the curiosity approach, but when it's used indirectly, all we do is give a further bad image for the organization. And people begin to say, "What's the matter, are you ashamed of what you're in? Do you have to be tricky, deceitful, lie to get me to come to a meeting?
but I'd rather have you have to go through that little verbal battle rather to deceive a person and tell them it's not an Amway meeting and then when they get there an hour after they sat down they discover it is an Amway meeting. You know, that's deception, that infuriates people, and that gives this company, and you, a bad image. And so we need your help on some of that stuff, we just got to clean it up.
http://www.amquix.info/amway_directly_speaking.html
Mega double LOL's from the Left Coast.
HeeHeeHeeHee
Some (sh*tty) things never change.
How long before Quixtar can't be mentioned, just like Amway
Do-op - it's already happened. What took Amway 20-25 years to accomplish it's taken Quixtar only 5 or 6.
Ain't technology grand.
Ha!
The funniest part is that this is this guy's second blog post. He didn't even start his blog to be an anti-blog yet because of the curiosity approach (not to mention his very direct post title) we now have another surprise for the Britt Worldwide cause.
Classic!
You're right, QBlog.
There is no laughter in Ada. For, lo, I have been there, and it is a Gehenna, with wailing and gnashing of teeth. Fulton Street IS the road to perdition.
How come every one of these blog posts detailing The Mysterious Meeting ends in the blogger warning of The Mysterious Meeting? Why do all these blog posts describe the exact same approach and switcheroo? Why are IBOs nationwide continuing to use this method that actually works contrary to their goals? I know the answer, but the answer's ramifications are dark stuff indeed.
Amway Quixtar Amway Quixtar Amway QuixtarAmway Quixtar Amway Quixtar
NO Difference! Artistry did 1 Billion!
Was it Amway or Quixtar?One of TOP 5 in WORLD.
Now is it?
Amway Quixtar Artistry?
Ever seen a company with so many names to hide behind and use to give them credit when they need some.Wal-Mart is same here and everywhere else.No Sams Club!Crape I give up!
It is so sad that the "Jewels" or better yet Dons of the Amway/Quixtar Crime Families, do not understand that the internet has and always will expose their dirty secerets! The internet is the worst thing that happened to to amway. I guess that you could say that the internet is working just like the RICO Act works to bring down the mafia. LOL!!
People are not stupid. All you have to do is type in their common approaches on Google & BAM!!! They are exposed!! Their brainwahsing techniques won't work as well as in the past because you can now go look for the truth right from your desktop.
TRUTH BE TOLD:
YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH RECUITING PEOPLE. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH SELLING PRODUCTS THAT COST MORE THAN WHAT YOU CAN GET AT WAL-MART! YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH BUYING TRAINING TOOLS. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH GOING TO MEETINGS, FUCNTIONS, RALLIES. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH THINKING THAT IF THE DREAM IS BIG ENOUGH THE FACTS DON'T COUNT. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH BELIEVING THAT EVERY PRODUCT AND SERVICE THAT YOU NEED CAN BE PROVIDED BY ONE COMPANY. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH TRYING TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S BUYING HABITS. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH BUYING FROM YOUR OWN COMPANY IF YOUR PRODUCTS COST MORE THAN YOUR COMPETITION. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH BY CUTTING OFF YOUR FAMILY AND CLOSE FRIENDS. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH SACRIFICING YOUR MARRIAGE FOR THE DREAM. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH BY NOT WATCHING THE NEWS OR READING THE PAPER. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH BY LISTENING TO A TAPE RECORDING OF A RALLY WITH PEOPLE BABLING ABOUT THEIR LIFESTYLE. YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH BY SELLING YOUR TV TO GO TO A FUCNTION. THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU WILL NEVER GET RICH BELIEVING IN A LIE.
Are any of you rich? I know Im not...and as far as Im concerned until I am..Its no ones place to comment about anyones job or business. I could say all of these same things about the grocerie store....ah haha ha, safeway sucks oooh they rip you off....when it really comes down to it, do you really think Anyone that is in this business actually cares what you think about them. I wonder what they say about people who sit around and start Blogs because they have nothing else to do with there very unsuccessful lives.
I'm yet to find anyone that can answer the following question. Tell me a traditional business that a person can startup for $45 and have the potential to make you a millionaire. Oh and you can work your job and only have to invest 1 to 2 hrs a night of labor in it? Don't get me wrong maybe someone knows of a traditional business. If you do, I would like you to email me your IBO plan since Quixtar and Amway have been kind enough to supply you with a business plan.
whats up guys.... i've read all of your comments and i think they are very intresting. all of you have very different ideas and opinions, and i respect them. i am an active participant in the quixtar busness. i have been apart of the company for a while and i have achieved some success. to all of those people who have negative things to say about the business i ask you this question... did you try the business out your self? and if the answer is yes... obviously it didn't work for you. my next question is why didn't it work? what did or didn't you do to make it work? don't blame the others involved in your group you were in, just blame you. you didn't work it the right way.... thats all to it.. this business isn't for every single person in the world so don't come down on it because its not for you. accept it and move on.. It funny becuase you don't see any one of us writing blogs and notes about how you guys or girls live your lives do you? we just are here to help thats all
What IBOs need to do is start thinking for themselves. You need to stop letting Quixtar tell you what to do. Take a step aside and take a good look at what kind of person you have become. You can't disagree with me that ever since day one, every word that has come out of your mouth Quixtar has routinely taught you to say, every thought that has passed your mind Quixtar has taught you to think. Be your own person, don't let anyone tell you what to think or say. Take control of your own life. Quixtar will agree with me that it is here to make money - your money, your family's money, your friend's money. It doesn't care about you, as long as you keep buying the material they'll tell you whatever they can imagine so that they can keep you coming back. Keep Quixtar out of this and think for yourself, don't you think that this is really what's happening? Honestly, im not asking you to quit Quixtar, frankly beleive that people have the right to do what they want, I just want you keep everything that Quixtar has told you out of this and think about it. Don't you see what's happening?
why is it that everyone believes these blogs and no one give personal experience. Just outside speculation with no facts to back it up. Most of the people who have something negative to say could turn around bend over and pass air with more substance to it. You want people to believe you you had better have some substance instead of a lot of hot air. I didn’t read one “opinion” that said “I tried it and failed miserably.” Maybe everyone is just jealous that they are broke and not actually making money.
Ok, you want personal experience, I've got personal experience. I am married to the most wonderful woman on the face of this planet. She is kind and considerate and brilliant, not to mention beautiful. Her family has been in this fraud/sham of a business for three years. When I met her, I was a cop and her parents welcomed me with open arms. It was a great family situation.
Her brother moved down south to take an engineering job, as he is a rocket scientist (seriously). While down there, he was approached by one of these con men (oops, I mean IBOs). This person, and his dirtbag father, took advantage of my brother-in-law's loneliness to hook him into this business.
The brother comes home and asks his parents to buy some stuff from his internet business in order to help them out. The parents agree. He then suggests that he come back up and bring this con man up with him, so the con man can "show them the plan."
The night that the plan is shown, I come home from working a double shift, in my police uniform. When the con man sees me, in my uniform, he turns about as white as a ghost. If you talk to cops, they'll almost all tell you that when something's not right, they get a sharp twinge in their stomachs. Its a defense mechanism that signals its time for flight or fight. Well anyway, my stomach that night felt like someone was shanking me with a samauri sword.
Later that night, I got to hear this con man tell us that college is a waste of time and that reading anything other than "tools" from the business was a waste of time. Now my stomach was churning on overdrive. After all, how good could this "opportunity" be if it discourages you from listening to an alternate point of view? If it was that great, wouldn't it withstand alternative viewpoints? But I digress...
Anyway, my in-laws were hooked. They started by clearing out the entire house of anything non-quixtar related. Then, my father-in-law, a successful businessman already, stopped working at his primary business and started working quixshite full time. His wife, who has numerous health problems, goes to these stupid conferences, stays up for three days straight, and then is in bed for two weeks because she is so sick.
As for my wife, she has had experience with home based businesses before and she had learned her lesson long before the con man entered the lives of our family. There was simply no way she was going to fall for this scam. As for me, I grew up in a rough section of Philadelphia. Growing up, I've had to duck and dodge all manner of criminals, conmen and theives. What it has given me is an innate ability to spot a scam and avoid it. There was no way I was going to get involved in something that, given my police and life expereince, my gut tells me is probably illegal.
At present, my in-laws now treat me and my wife completely different because "we're not being supportive," simply because we do not share the same dream. They have tried to break us up, because they seem to think that, without me, she would join the business in a heartbeat. They shower praise and love on her brother and sister (who are both in the business), but deny it from her. They have introduced her to random guys and have had her "contact" random guys in stores. Bottom line is that this business is evil and rotten to the core. My only hope is that, the next time that Al Qaeda decides to attack an American city, they forgo Los Angeles, Washington or New York and drive planes into Ada, Michigan. For what quixtar has done to my wife's family, I hope the people who unleashed this abomination on our society burn in hell while repeatedly getting sodomized by Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and the various grand wizards of the Ku Klux Klan.
Wow KMPN..for a cop (or any profession), that's some damn
good writing and expression of feelings.
Points well taken.
My feeling: If you want to make money,
don't be obsessed and lose a balance.
One starts to show their motives and
it either changes their personalities
or chases opportunities away. Who wants
to be around a money grubbing, exploitive idiot?
I'd say, it helps to be sincere in
enjoying friends and family and valuing their
company , more so than being brainwashed
in how one can use them. Emotional
support is worth it's weight in gold
in times of crisis.
I'm a behavioral therapist specialising in autism. I have worked all around (a certian major city on the east coast). The state pays me to administer home therapy for these kids. I once met a woman in the Quixtar business whose child was autistic. She actually tried to inveagle me into using the government's money for my therapy sessions to go down to one of those quixcult conferences with her while billing the state for my time. SHe was consumed with "the business". All she talked about was how she was going to be wealthy. This is a very American phenomena where people feel that they must be ultra wealthy. It's the old Horatio Alger story. Why can't people just be happy and satisfied with their lives? The founders of Quixtar are big republican backers fighting against the interests of the middle class. They are also connected with war profiteers. These people are parasites. Whenever I would ask this lady more about the business I could never get a coherent response. Why the heck would I want to buy some crappy tube of toothpaste that I never heard of, try to convince other people to "work under me" and buy that same crappy toothpaste for themselves when I can go to the drugstore and get a better tube of toothpaste cheaper? This business is a scam because the profits are not based on the products that are sold but how many more people you can get to work under you. Therefore you can only be successful by becoming a major pain in the ass to your friends and family and everyone you meet by trying to get them involved. It's all-consuming and the people who claim they only have to spend just a little time each day on their computer are lying. You have to go out and constantly try to recruit everyone you meet just so you can become a diamond or emerald or whatever their stupid ranking system is. The lady took me to one of their meetings. I had no intention of joining but I went anyway out of curiosity. It was like a cult meeting. The idea is to get these people whipped up into a frenzy that their lives suck and that Quixtar/Amway is the only way they're gonna save themselves by getting mega rich. WAKE UP PEOPLE.
That's right, it's comming from up here. No, not from God. Up here from Canada. Its real most sincere laughter.
Well it's great. WRTF got a job security, bloggers got a stupid yet interesting scam to expose, and I get to laugh. Who pays the price, poor IBOs who are scared to use the Q word.......
Posted by: Imran Aziz | March 5, 2005 6:51 AM