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March 28, 2005
Monday Reader Mail: 37
By QBlog in Reader Mail
This Reader Mail reads like a script from IBO Head Quarters. It's amazing really. As always, my comments appear in bold
name: Kevin S.
date: March 24, 2005
message: I am an IBO who is making a great financial opportunity come true with Quixtar. I am making much more than your posted average income. Besides I am not average.
It's not my average income but Quixtar's. I just posted the same numbers that they distribute. The Average, Active IBO earns $115 per month.
Average people fail with Quixtar, and then post negative comments on the internet.
Average people fail with Quixtar? Then why is it marketed to average people?
You can make excuses or you can make money, but you can't make both. This is true with Quixtar or whatever your chosen income source is. Sometimes you just have to let losers lose. People quit everything, they quit jobs, marriage, and even Quixtar. Then they put negative crap on the internet, which is the same as the tabloid magazines or writing on the bathroom wall.
Just because it's negative doesn't mean it isn't true. Smoking kills. It's a negative message but still an important one to hear.
This is what they use as their loser's limp for not doing what it takes. I am doing something positive with my life, I wish I could do the same for you.
Not sure what a "loser's limp" is but I guess I'm supposed to have one. Anyway, how many IBOs does Kevin S. represent? In your experience, are his comments typical or unique?
Comments
Even with a "loser's limp," the runner still finishes the race; they didn't quit, did they? To some people, finishing the race is just as important as winning the race.
(I realize that I'm looking at the analogy more than I need to. I ran track in my earlier years, and the analogy piqued my interest.) Anyway, would never dream of competing in a race that never had a specific end. Can you imagine going around a track with your "coach" ( diamond upline) telling you, You're doing great! Just one more lap, and you'll win! Give it all you've got!" You run the next lap, and your "coach" tells you again, "Just one more lap!...." Sounds pretty exhausting and somewhat pointless to me.
I honestly wish that I had transcriptions of every motivational tape on disk so that I could do searches for certain phrases. I'll bet at least 3 or 4 tapes got quoted in this email.
I particularly like:
"You can make excuses or you can make money but you can't make both"
Priceless!
Just another load of tapespeak from a plugged-in, fired up A/Qbot. I'd love to be able to have someone like him keep us posted on his success over the next 2-5 years, along with copies of his Schedule C's.
Inquiringmind- here's a visual: you're actually racing on a mobius strip :-)
Some things never change!
So, if you run the race, don't win but set a personal best, did you still "lose?"
Winning and losing is not always black and white, though profit and loss statements are, unless you are embezzling! So Kevin, how much profit did you show on your Schedule C last year?
Oh. My. Gosh.
He is gonna feel SO stupid when he wakes up from his tape-induced coma.
There's not a single original idea to be found in Kevin's email, and it's pathetic. He just regurgitated every cliche that you hear on stage or on tape, and provided no proof of his success. He forgot to add that we should "hide in the bushes and watch", or "I'm going Diamond. Period. That's it." Maybe he needs to be more plugged in and listen to more tapes.
I'll echo Qblog's comment about marketing it to "average people" and add the semi-rhetorical question,
"Kevin, what criteria do you use to screen prospective IBOs? And, since "average" ones will undoubtedly fail (lose money every month in a fruitless quest for profit), do you have what it takes to insist that they keep their wallets in their pockets, and PASS on the Q opportunity?"
My assumption is that if average or below-average people apply & interview for positions at Q HQ, they're passed up - to make room for the above-average candidates the will need to keep things running as well as they do. So, why do IBOs sponsor people who statistically have no chance at success and in fact are destined to LOSE money in a money-making venture? Tools, baby. Tools.
By the way, Kevin, where does your income come from? Are you dipping into the tools-scam honeypot? Do you really generate a livable net income from selling Q products? Net, remember, means that you'll need to subtract from your glorious Q bonus checks . . . . subtract every mile, every hour of your time (what's your hourly rate?), every ticket, every tape, every book, every sample, every brochure & business card, all of the dues to your A/QMO . . . . you get the picture. Can you honestly state that your NET income is above average? Or livable? I have yet to personally meet or correspond with a single IBO who, w/o tools money, is showing a livable income at any level of Q - w/o the tools money.
Never mind our bathroom-wall scrawling about the 2-5 year Diamond lifestyle freedom that Q has never delivered. Ever. Not once. So, to again echo Qblog - just because what we say is negative doesn't mean it's not true. In fact, we could turn it around on you & your LOS - and state that just because the "Diamond lifestyle 2-5 year freedom" promise is a great positive message, doesn't mean it's true! In fact it's demonstrably false.
And isn't FALSE usually NEGATIVE?
(I assume "demonstrably false" would be worse...)
PW
PW -
In Q, "false" is usually positive. All the positive hype and dream building would be an example. On the other side, we have the anti- status quo rhetoric (i.e. the J-O-B slander) which is negative and also false.
And demonstrable fallacies aren't worse, they're just demonstrably false. As in "You can go Diamond and be free in 2-5 years!" being not only considered false by the anti-Q crowd, but proven (there's the demonstrable part)false by the pro-Q IBOs who have been working it for more than 5 years and not going Diamond or becoming free.
Yeah Kevin S., how do you explain a heavyily involved IBO divorcing his wife? Loser in marriage, winner in a crappily run business? I guess the saying you made "You can make excuses or you can make money, but you can't make both" applies here, as well?
I agree with the fact that Kevin S. is just repeating what he has heard on tape/CDs. People need to be careful what they say. Make sure they are willing to back it up with action. That is true with anything in life, I think we can all agree on that. What I can't figure out is what does everyone in here think they are saving people from. If you have something else you are working for go for it I truely hope you have great success, but why bad mouth what others are working for. If it works for them great if not then they probably learned something. I see business come and go all the time in all industries, I don't go around and try to convice someone who is opening a coffee stand not to do it cuz the one I had failed. (as an example)
Critter,
The person opening a coffee stand won't be losing his credibility with friends, family and strangers because he won't be trying to rope people in with false hopes and dreams. You don't hear that just because someone's coffee stand didn't get the results they wanted and they closed it, they aren't called losers, quitters as do IBO uplines when someone quits the business. The Q-people usually are taking their misguided ideas to inflict upon their downline and many people are being hurt emotionally, financially, and maybe even spiritually because of it.
Lisa,
I appreciate your feelings on this. Yes I have seen that too in Quixtar. I have also seen it in church and other jobs. I wish everybody had a high self image and could quit something and not be affected by others opinions. I have heard stories of people losing there friends because of their involvement with this business, but I have also lost friends because their jobs transfered them to another city and we lost touch. These are all normal life events, part of growing up. I truely hope you are a stong enough person to not let what other people say or think about you affect the way you feel about yourself. I am sure you are a wonderful person. Best wishes to you I pray your life is truely blessed
I'm not trying to save anyone from anything. I'm merely trying to point out there are other sides to the story, and tell people to do their due dilligence before signing up for Quixtar. If they do and still sign up, more power to them. But if the only side they get is from the IBO and they either do not or refuse to hear from anyone else, they are heading for trouble.
I know it sounds like good advice to only heed advice from those who succeeded. But that discounts the many things we can and should learn from failure. And I don't know about you, but if I'm about to attempt anything and know of someone who failed at doing something similar, I'm going to talk to that person and use his experience for my benefit, so I might potentially avoid the same pitfalls and traps he did and have a better chance at succeeding. Most Ambots/Quixbots would avoid this guy altogether because he would be "negative" and fail to gain his wisdom.
If he was a "hacker" (instead of a Quixtar IBO), those of us who care to differentiate would call him a "script-kiddie".
"loser's limp" [Noun]
origin - function stage
The exagerated staggered walk you do at the end of a footrace you lost, to make other's believe it's not your fault you lost.
Roger
Posted by: Roger, Husband of a Team Brainwashee | March 28, 2005 4:17 PM