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June 28, 2004
Monday Reader Mail: 3
By QBlog in Reader Mail
This Monday's Reader Mail selection is from someone identified as "D" and claiming to be a member of the Team of Destiny. I can't vouch for the accuracy of the information "D" includes in the message but it does seem to indicate that the testimony of Bo Short is having an impact on the perceptions of Quixtar among IBOs.
As always, my comments are in bold
name: DAnd inform we will.
date: March 17, 2004message: To the uninformed!
I have been with the TOD for just over a year and a half. I will start by saying they helped me understand a lot of things that no-one had before. That being said. My girlfriend and I joined the team within a few days and were told the same old stuff. System is where it's at! Because we were not married they encouraged seperate IBO #'s. After that they scoffed at us working the business together and insisted we each achieve our 150 PV. Oh yes and the seperate system count.
After all of this we were told to get in and our team would build below us. Well that didn't happen as many people have found. We did sponsor people that didn't do anything and so on. However, I felt like we were lying to people when we were expected to tell them we would build their business and our upline would say things like: my upline didn't sponsor anyone for me so if you want a big team you have to build your team. It all seemed crazy but I was told to stay plugged in and everything would work out.
"Stay plugged in and everything would work out" is something my wife and I heard from our upline. The feeling I got from them was that we didn't need to think, the system would do the thinking for us. Of course, we did "think" and that became a problem.
After I got a rejection based on the internet postings I decided to check some out for myself. I would have expected people who didn't try to build to be upset. However, when I saw a name very familiar to TOD I was shocked. Bo Short had been a few tapes in our 300 dollar top 50 and he had spoken out and quit quixtar completely. This was something I couldn't dispute, nor could the TOD.
After some checking and calculating I figured roughly without voicecom and the internet site. Profits were in the upwards of 40million/year. I figured on 25000 people on system. I thought to myself that they had to pay for the facilities with some of that. So I checked out the price for our 90 dollar major conference at the Breslin center at Michigan State University and although they didn't get specific but based on 7500 people they would charge starting at 8000/day This is a 2 day event and that doesn't include profits from tools and concessions. The amount of money brought in though for 7500 people is 630,000 dollars.!
WOW, That is a good profit. I guess that's why Orrin is putting a 5000-10000 sq/ft addition to his house.
I wonder how many people have contracts guaranteeing a cut of any conference money?
To wrap up I would say this, the TOD says Quixtar is not a pyramid but what is a pyramid is the tool business. The top get more than the bottom. A lot more!
Also, they say you should not like working for your boss who pays you to show up at his pyramid. The TOD has the same pyramid and they don't even pay you to show up!!
Always inform
D
Comments
It is true, there is a huge amount of money that changes hands due to tools and functions, and well there should be. This is a business, and businesses should make money. There is also a profit sharing system that is in place for IBOs at different levels, starting at Platinum. The amount of money made depends on the number of tools and tickets bought. The fact that the profits are high would indicate that the business is growing, because you can only fool people for so long. Profits aside, the cost of the functions and tools are very low when compared to business seminars people attend to gain a edge in other businesses. Lets not even talk about college, where books are often $100 or more, and the vast majority of graduates never work in the field that they trained for. Oh and they don't have a profit sharing plan. Orrin is helping a lot of people and he is making a lot of money. Sounds a lot like the free enterprise system, where no one should be paid just to show up.
It is my understanding that the tools business in the TOD system is set up in a profit sharing model so that the top level IBO's don't automatically recieve more than other IBO's and that it is actually possible to pass any of them in performance profit sharing.
I was told that there were many lawyers consulted so as to create a legal system that would be equally fair for all IBO's. While this was not necessarily always the case, I see that in making such changes to their system that the leadership on the TOD is concerned about the profitability of their downline as well as their own and I admire that integrity.
Also worth mentioning is a comment made by Orrin at a recent major seminar in Michigan regarding the TOD logo and book "Leading the consumer rebellion". While I can't directly quote him the comment was of the sort that Orrin an Chris had created the logo and written the book together and that ethically they could have kept the profits from those things and put them into their own pockets but instead chose to put them into the pool of money distributed by the profit sharing formula. I view this as a refreshing insight into Orrin and Chris's character and their leadership style on the TOD.
Posted by: Jon (TOD IBO) | August 19, 2004 12:36 AM