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May 7, 2004
Dateline NBC says "Quixtar was Amway"
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Someone, in a blog comment, accused me of misquoting the part in the show where Dateline makes the Amway/Quixtar connection. I'm not perfect and I'll own up to any misquotes the moment I'm aware of them but I did NOT misquote Dateline on this. I have TiVo and I just transcribed this part from the show.
Remember when we said Quixtar sounded a little like Amway, the company which drew the ire of the Federal Government several years back from making false promises to recruits? Well, it turns out, Quixtar isn't just like Amway, it was Amway. Quixtar is just its new incarnation with many of the same players.What's that line where they say, "it turns out, Quixtar isn't just like Amway, it was Amway?" Hmmmmm.
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That was a completely misguided, twisted interpretation of what Quixtar is all about. They need to get their stories straight. Quixtar is the webportal where the products are purchased from, (over 1 million of them by the way). The system behind the webportal is how it works. I'm sure everyone has already heard this so I will just some it up by saying that there is more than one organization that uses Quixtar as a portal. And let's just say that some of those organizations "try" to do everything their own way, no organization at all, just all the leaders doing what they feel is right and not what has been proven to work. There is one organization that is united and everyone does the same thing and that is BWW or Britt Worldwide. That is all I have to say....for now
You all need to know that not only is Quixtar - Amway, but is fully owned and operated by Alticor. And people, regardless of what pin level they have acheived are still people who are not pure. Britt and his inner circle are fighting with their own personal deamons, and not doing so well. Keep you eyes, and ears open as soon you will see and hear.
A_diamond _in_the_making must be real new in the biz..The leaders teach what works in their minds and discourage anything new. The Britt orginaization is not unified. You were'nt wathcing the show, They make money on the system.. We are talking about the system not individuals.
Bill Britt left Dexter Yager and one of the reasons I heard was to start his own tool company AMI Yager owns Internet services or something like that. Most lawsuits stem from the break away of tools. Britt learned about tool money from dexter. Directs get $1.00 a tape and around 25% for books.
Who cares about products a fully qualified diamond on just Quixtar bonuses (no system) makes between 100K to 200K.
If you think the Britt system is pure why did Paul and Debbie Miller both have affairs, or why have big pins left?
Wake up
Hey Diamond in the making - how much is the average income of a diamond, how long does it take to get there, and how many diamonds are there in Quixtar? With time and odds like that, what makes you think you'll be one of the .1% of people who even stay in the business, let alone a diamond?
True Believer I think your wrond on your 1% Some professor I read about on Scott Larsens sight figures it was .0017% He figured it would be better not to get in and go with the 1% figure of millionaires in the US. By the way "The Millionaire Next Door" book does an in depth study of the demographics of the millionaires in the USA...None or to small to study were in teh MLM's
Jim,
Prove that the Miller's had an affair. If you can't prove it then retract it or qualify the statement.
Why does it matter if Quixtar is, was, or even will be Amway? The fact is that Amway worked for those people who chased their dreams, AND Quixtar is doing the same.
They took debbie off the Britt sight, and then it came to light Paul had slept with his secretary Leslie.. Scott Larsen has it on is sight. I have a downline Ruby in Millers/Winters group and they have confirmed it
No Larry, the point is that Amway over 40 years built itself a name as a pyramid scam, and they are trying to hide from that name. Furthermore, few people have been successful as direct result of their affiliation with Quixtar, most of the successful people were in successful in Amway prior to moving their businesses over to Quixtar.
IMO I'm glad I got involved. I didn't get involved because of the diamonds making 250k+ a year or anything. I got involved because a friend of mine retired his wife because of quixtar. I got involved because he was leading a lifestyle that was positive and fulfilling. Quixtar gave him that hope and a dream. That's all I ever wanted, was a dream and someone who had part of it already accomplished to show me how.
When it comes down to it, all you naysayers can keep on bashing, and anyone can tear something down with their hands and words. But few people are willing to stand up to build and construct something while everyone else trying to tear it down.
To all you IBO's out there, go for it and keep on dreaming. Don't let the dummies out there steal your dream cause they ain't payin your bills!
You got it right Randy " a few people" .0017%
ex-dd, how many people do you know making 250,000 K? In Canada only 2% of the population makes 100,000 so it's probably under 1%. The odds of success in anything are low, go and try to make the NHL, i don't know anyone that I played hockey with who made the big leagues. Does that mean the NHL is a scam because few succeed? No
Does that mean Quixtar is a scam because few succeed? No
Camac:
I know about 20 people making that really probably more, being that I am heavily networked in our city.
Your argument is crap, here is why...
They tell everyone that they can make it if they do 8 team steps, listen to tapes, read books and show the plan 5 times a week.
Guess what using your logic If i skate the same hours and practice the same hours as someone who made it in the NHL I will be a hockey player?
Doesnt talent come in anywhere? Can you really tell all those sport star wannabes who put more into sports than you will ever in Quixtar, that the reason they didnt make it was they did not try hard enough?
Come on use a real argument not the ones you hear from stage taught to you.
Camac:
Another thought for you..Read "The millionaire next door" It is suprising that they do not mention MLM'ers
in their book. Here is a Author that did a demographic study of USA millionaires.
Is it on your booklist?
It was'nt on ours..wonder why?
It was only a bestseller teaching millionaire mentality
Camac:
Another thought for you..Read "The millionaire next door" It is suprising that they do not mention MLM'ers
in their book. Here is a Author that did a demographic study of USA millionaires.
Is it on your booklist?
It was'nt on ours..wonder why?
It was only a bestseller teaching millionaire mentality
ex-dd, your argument was "a few" make it - .0017%. I was simply responding to the odds of success, not trying to establish why.
Success in anything is a combination of talent and perseverance, not looking at the %'s and deciding if they can do it.
HUH? % has alot do do with alot, Stocks, everything..Look at some Franchise circulars.
Your missing the point.. You buy a frranchise their is a huge % success rate if you follow their system and talent is not as big of a factor..due to being able to hire the talent.
You follow the Quixtar distributor system and the % are a lotttttt lessss.
So if I am buying a Franchise (like I have already) I look at the success and failures of the other franchises. In fact I was encouraged to talk to the failures (less than 2%) and ask them any negative Question I wanted.
The franchises want serious people who will have boths sides of the story going inot their biz venture.
Supply a list of those who failed in Quixtar to your new potential recruits so they to will have both sides of the story.. In fact wuit using the curiosity approach, that approach shows that you have soemthing to hide or are embarrased about your biz.
everyone
sorry for double posts and typos
I was involved with Amway for three years back in the 80's. I found it to be a positive experience, and for a young man something of an education. It was in many ways a life-changing experience, however as a business system it leaves much to be desired.Even in 82-83 there was an article in the Detroit free press talking about how much money was being made on books and tapes, it was treated as a joke. I can also remember spending $60 to go to a 'Dream Night' along with 10,000 others and I can remember wondering where they had spent the $600,000 because it sure wasn't on the facility. I will always be grateful to Amway for what I learned about business and about myself however as a vehicle to make money those positions were filled a long time ago.
Get real you brainwashed IBOs .....read a book (Merchants of Deception)which should be recommended to all of you in this snake pit,with your so called "Friends to the End".Take it from a person who did achieve a level in the business and ask yourself truly...if you still have the capacity to question.PLEASE WAKE UP FROM THE SLEEP....you never knew when you got duped!
I've enjoyed reading the various comments. Truly great to be in America. I've seen the pyramid scheme jargon and have to point out that legally Amway was proven to not be a pyramid scheme. I have worked as an employee and at the present time is self employed outside of a regular job.
I have the sense of mind to think that anyone in today's society that thinks that you will be able to retire gracefully from employment has been duped, those days are gone. I suggest strongly that you find some way to own your own business be it Amway, your way or some kind of way. I have yet to figure why everyone hates the Amway/Quixtar business so much. My attitude is that any business is what you make of it. The business I own is not Amway/Quixtar, but you can tell that I hold that business in the best regards and may possibly pursue it soon.
Oh and they openly admit that they make money on the system....at public conventions. None of this is news. And we IBOs are okay with that and want to get our hands on some of that money too! And how are you going to have a problem with this when your boss/corporation makes money off of you, and you get a tiny chunk of what they make from your hard work? Makes no sense. You will work at a job for the rest of your life, 40 hours a week plus, 52 weeks a year.....have fun.
I'm sorry, but are the owners of companies such as Bass Pro Shops, Circuit City, Barnes & Noble, Office Depot, etc., who are all partnered up with Quixtar, missing all of this information - is this really just illegal and they just didn't realize it? Ha, I can't believe people actually listen to Dateline. Wow. And to say only a few make it?? That is true of anything...where is your logic? Where does negativity get you anyway? Nowhere.
And it begins.
Posted by: ChrisA | May 7, 2004 8:55 PM