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January 27, 2004
The Bo Short Timeline
By QBlog in
I receive a number of inquiries each month asking me what I know about Bo Short. As a response to those inquiries I've compiled a brief Timeline documenting specific dates and events that will hopefully answer many of those questions. The Timeline information was obtained from court documents, Web research and email interviews with Bo Short. While I consider the Timeline information to be accurate and fair, it is necessarily brief and may omit some events and details. If you know of information that should be added or changed please contact me immediately.
1995 - Bo Short qualified as an Amway Diamond.
1997 - Bo realized that "there was a problem in the business" but could not specifically identify the problem. He noticed that attendance numbers seemed to be declining as he spoke for different organizations and that the decline was happening "across the board."
February, 1998 - A group called ProNet was formed by Bo's upline and crossline. The ProNet group, headed by Hal Gooch, Tim Foley, Steven Woods and Bill Childers, "promised" to fix the problems that were causing the declining attendance numbers. One of the main components of the solution was to break away from Dexter Yager. Rumors were spread about Yager, alleging that he was ultimately causing most of the problems.
September, 1999 - Quixtar.com launched
July, 2000 - Bo Short realized that ProNet had not lived up to its "promise" of fixing the "problems." Reportedly, the numbers were still declining and the launch of Quixtar.com had not done much to change that trend. More importantly for Bo, the ProNet group seemed to be acting exactly like the rest of the groups, the same methods and the same problems. Bo Short and a handful of Diamonds from various organizations decided to meet and discuss the problems and to search for a solution.
The group met in Chicago and quickly realized that most of the problems were tool-related (books-tapes-seminars). They noticed certain names kept surfacing while discussing the problems in different organizations. Those names belonged to small group of tenured, high-level pins and it became apparent that they were the ones controlling the tool distribution money across multiple organizations.
The group also realized that the training system was ineffective and also inequitable. The tool money was primarily moved to the tenured, high-level pins and the newest people, those at the bottom, did not share in the financial benefits of the tools. The group sought a method to remedy that inequality and to make the tools more effective. The group also realized that making the tool business public, by publishing details and discussing its operation, was the most important component of their planned changes.
Soon after the Chicago meeting, the Diamonds met with Quixtar to discuss their conclusions and offer solutions. During one meeting with Quixtar Bo Short learned that the Corporation had been aware of the tool problem, and its inherent inequality, since 1965.
Shortly after July, 2000 - Team In Focus was formed. The formation of TIF was a direct result of the Diamonds meeting in Chicago and their subsequent meetings with the Quixtar Corporation. The purpose of TIF was to reform the tool business and to transfer control of the tools from the high-level pins to the masses. With Quixtar's "blessing," TIF set out to construct a tool compensation plan that paid similarly to Quixtar's own bonus plan.
The main goal of TIF's tool-reform effort was to approach the business from the bottom up instead of the top down. TIF pursued changes such as:
July, 2000 - September, 2001 - Bo Short continued to meet with Quixtar as the TIF liaison. Bo's job was to interface with Quixtar on the behalf of TIF. The Corporation assured Bo and TIF that they would be protected from the very people they were challenging with reforms — the tenured, high-level pins. The Corporation initially said that everything was open for discussion including tool manufacturing and distribution as well as help with management and compensation. However, shortly after TIF broke away from their respective upline groups, the Corporation withdrew much of their promised support. TIF was left with Corporation support in name only, without any sort of real collaboration with Quixtar towards tool reform. In fact, they were prohibited from telling their groups that Quixtar was distributing their tools through a sister company known as Access Logistics.
September, 2001 - Bo had come to realize that none of this (tool reform) was working out. TIF was not really an instrument for change and some of its participants seemed to behave more like the other groups with each passing day. The Corporation had abandoned their promises. The tenured pins wouldn't budge. Bo realized that he was unable to change Quixtar and the established tools system from the inside and decided to leave it all behind and walk away. He resigned his income, tool money, bonuses — everything. Bo said, "I refuse to be a part of something that I believe has been corrupted."
Shortly after he notified Quixtar that he was leaving (by not renewing), Bo began to develop Passport as an option to offer the few friends he was leaving.
October, 2001 - While Bo did not renew with Quixtar in September and no longer received any income from Quixtar, the Corporation insisted that Bo send them a formal resignation letter (read more about it here). To end the resignation/renewal squabble, Bo sent a resignation letter to Quixtar.
On October 12 Bo resigned from Team In Focus. Around that time Passport was officially formed.
December, 2001 - Passport ships its first products.
April, 2002 - Team In Focus broke off from Quixtar and became an independent group.
November, 2005 - Bo Short joins Oasis LifeSciences.
Comments
Here's a thought: How about just not listening to or buying the tapes? Wow! What a concept!
I hope you Have better things to do with your'e life than cut business apart with negative news.
get a life!!!
I hope this article gets taken down.
Great time line I was involved with all of this and the mess that TIF caused to its people and is still causing is very sad. They have reverted back to the old ways of only the few make money. It takes courage and guts to walk away and to express what you believe in. Good work Bo. I hope we all make you proud as we stand beside you in this fight.
I was involved and I'm still in the business (because my 'membership' isn't up yet). I don't participate in anything...I went to one meeting (very weird, sort of cultic, not a cult, just cultic). I've listened to tapes (very modivational, but too preachy, I'm not a big fan of the tapes) and I've read THEE books (okay, who's paying whom to write these books on how 'great' the business is?). So, in conclusion to this whole matter, as Solomon said in Ecclessiates, the products are good, the business is shady and laying on a sandy foundation.
Take it from me...buy that stuff off ebay, much cheaper!
Thanks for this website.
Bo Short ought to be ashamed of himself for blaming someone else for his lack of ethics. Secondly, he ought to refocus on something positive like moving on with his life. It always seems like those who know the least know it the loudest.
I saw Bo Short speak about 4 years ago and read two of his books. I really thought he was a man of integrity. I guess I was wrong. All the stuff he wrote about in "Living to win" and "Founding Fathers" must of just been him writing what he thought would sell. He's probably now a Liberal Democrat and helping to run the Kerry campaign....
I decided not to renew this year. I spent thousands on books tapes and seminars, and was a 1500 pin for one month, about three months into my Amway distributorship. Seems that the tools were the business after all.
I saw Bo Short on CNBC tonight, on a "cover to Cover" expose of Quixtar. I think it vindicated him and confirmed all the BS we had been fed for several years. Good job Bo. Best of luck in the future.
Been in this industry for 2 years now. And I have NEVER once given up one of my hard earned consumer dollars to the KINGPINS to pacify their "book cooking" shadow pyramid recycled literature businesses. Thats not just doing the business right, thats called "braggin rights". Dexter Yaeger can sell me anything he wants. He can sell me lawn mowers if he wants. Don't want one. already own two (you get my point). I'ts your business people. ACT LIKE IT!!! My 164 people migrated over to Passport. Why? Because our consumer dollars always goes to the HIGHEST bidder-always. Theres two ways to run your home based, web based business. As an expensive hobby(Quixtar,TIF), or as a profitable business(Passport). Pick one!!!
My Wife and I have been "in the business" for 6 years. Nope, not a diamond, not even close... just a businessman (outside of Quixtar).
Quite honestly, I don't know what all the hype is about the tape business anyway. How much do you pay for a music CD at the store... $10-$15. Do you really think it costs that much for the CD? Come on, that's how they make their money. Our upline told us early on, Yes there's money in the tapes and when you get to a certain level you can participate too. It's a business. Heck, Tony Robbins makes most of his money from tapes, ex-Presidents make tons of money of their books/tapes/seminars (speaking engagementes).
With anything, you get out of it what you put in. I've gotten great books to read and speakers (in and out of the business) to listen too. Wonderful uplifting people to socialize with. I haven't been active in the business for over a year (demands of my other business which is a software development comany) and yet I can still go on the website and save money, and I still get a check every month. So what's so evil about that? Never lied, misled, or twisted anyone's arm I talked to.
Like any large business, there are ethical and non-ethical people involved in it. I have yet to hear one person complain about the company itself (whether it be Quixtar or Amway). They have very good products, great customer support, and have always taken care of me. Big plus over other companies I've bought products from.
Anyway, guys, this is just another business. It has its pluses and minuses. All businesses cost money to run. I pay over $6000/year just in license renewal fees on one piece of software I use in my software company... more than I've every spent annually on Quixtar. Put things in prospective. If you thought you were going to "get rich quick" with this, then you may want to look in the mirror for someone to blame. Anything long lasting takes a long time to build (business, relationships, etc.). Run your Quixtar business like a business. If you've got an honest upline diamond, they should tell you about the tape business, and all the rest. They're not going to tell you how much they make just as you wouldn't tell anyone how much you make (none of their business).
I believe that most of the speakers in Quixtar are simply telling you how they made it to where they're at. If you don't believe or respect them, get out or find an upline that you do (or just by the stuff for yourself). McDonalds doesn't let their store owners do things anyway they want. THEY HAVE TO DO IT THE MCDONALDS WAY or loose the store. Quixtar gave you an option, follow what others have found profitable, or do it yourself. Dexter did it himself and others followed and were successful. Others have followed and weren't. So goes business. If you think you've got a better way as Bo did, take your shot. IT REALLY IS YOUR BUSINESS. You have the right to make that decision.
Good luck to all, and whatever you do, stay positive. The alternative is just depressing.
Quixtar is a model business in free enterprise. Free enterprise is such an oxymoron. Most people focus on the "free" rather than the "enterprise". Being enterprising entails being creative and industrious with as little government or even corporate intervention on how we should run the business.
Quixtar offers us the system of distribution in which we can be compensated accordingly. Should they monitor and regulate the motivational business that is being used to promote their business? There is no simple yes or no answer. We can look at it from a perspective of an employer-employee relationship. Then, Quixtar needs to dictate to us everything pertaining to this business. We can look at it from a perspective of a business owner or independent business owner. Of couse, there should be guidelines on the ethics and practices of this business. The issue then becomes how much and how should Quixtar intervene in regards to this matter on profiting from motivational material.
This is my personal opinion. I have never thought the motivational materials as being conducive to me not succeeding in this business. The point is: where should we focus our business on? Should we quit and move on? Or, should we build the business and move on? The beauty of free enterprise is that we have the freedom to choose.
If Quixtar is so great why is there a need for a training system? If they just lowered the price of their products so that they were competitive people would gladly join. After two years and thousands of dollars spent,I am firmly convinced that quixtar do not care about the success of average IBOs. I was always told to get my information(on money and business in this case) from the correct source. Bo Short is that source. He is the one that they cannot explain away.
Qblog – I just read the Bo Short timeline posted on the QRush blog and see that it is quite different than yours. Assuming you have read the QRush posting, do you believe Bo was truthful when you interviewed him? I’m reading your intro a second time here and you say, “The Timeline information was obtained from court documents, Web research and email interviews with Bo Short. While I consider the Timeline information to be accurate and fair, it is necessarily brief and may omit some events and details. If you know of information that should be added or changed please contact me immediately.” So I guess I’m contacting you immediately as you requested to let you know that your timeline may need to be edited. By the way, what court documents? Are they public?
I don’t know where QRush got his information (he says it is from email sources, etc.) but I can tell he is very well informed. I’m guessing he is either a Diamond from one of those groups and was involved in the whole mess or is being fed info by a few of those guys. Your timeline makes Bo look like a model citizen yet QRush seems to have the scoop on this one. I’m really curious as to your comments here.
It seems that it would be really easy for Bo Short to clear up a few things. For example, if he left the business while making millions of dollars a year, I would have to believe this came down to an integrity issue as he claims, unless, of course, being the TIF liaison to Quixtar, he knew TIF was going to get shut down, meaning Bo’s income would evaporate anyway. If on the other hand, he left after the bottom dropped out and was only making a few hundred dollars a month as QRush claims, then I would say that Bo milked the cow dry and left only after he no longer saw a benefit. Couldn’t Bo provide information to clear this up once and for all by providing copies of tax records, copies of check stubs, etc.? I would try and clear my name if I could.
Oh, by the way, why doesn’t your timeline reflect that Bo Short partially bought his diamond business? Seems that even he is admitting this one by stating that he spend $60,000 of his own money.
You're contacting me immediately with what? What exactly needs to be changed? What is incorrect?
I have read a number of issues about Quixtar (Amway) and I am disturbed to see the over all abuse that has happened through the years. Many years ago a friend of mine tried to convince me that this was where the money was. I seen them driving a broke down old station wagon with a ton of product in their home that they really could not afford. I choose not to get into the company and the image was burned into my mind of them trying to make ends meet after they made sure they had the inventory they needed. I wanted to make money just as much as the next person but I knew this wasn't the way. I really considered many forms of income outside of my regular jobs. I sold candles and makeup, jackets and knives. I never seemed to be ahead of the game when it was all said and done. Until I met a man and he showed me some real natural products that I tried and they was wonderful. I only wanted to use the product and that is all I had to so. I loved the fact that it was no pressure. The cost was good and the quality was great. I told my sister about it and she told her friend about it and all of a sudden I was receiving a check monthly. I told a couple other friends about what was happening and they checked it out to. I am making a nice check now and it was no pressure. I know that everyone hates MLM and I do to. I don't sell anything and don't have any inventory. I have been in for sometime now and I really don't see me ever getting away from it. The product alone is so great that I will stay.
Just because you got burned with one company that had bad practices doesn't mean that all companies are bad. If I could I would tell everyone about the company that changed my life and most of all my health. I don't care who contacts me. I will talk to anyone and listen to anything they have to say. I am open.
Linda Davis melagal@sbcglobal.net
woow??..... I Just saw the "cover to cover" on CNBC. I'll have to say that I am very upset in this but , the matter is that what do I do with the information I just saw. Do I keep with it or do I quit and sob...........What is truth and what is the real key to success if this isn't it??????.......................
It's crazy to think that Bo and all the other TIF hiarchy didn't know about tool abuses until after they went diamond. Me and my entire downline(all relative newbies) could see that there were obvious abuses. We were idiots and could see it. These guys cracked under pressure ifrom their downline. They were dropping like flies! I like Bo, but he's been pulling a PR fast one!
My time in Amway wasnt really bad. I didnt make any money at all. I had a bunch of friends through the business. But I do believe that there were many flaws. Like they didnt ever enforce the 10 customer rule in my group. I have a feeling they dont in many many groups. As I see it I think that a lot of good earned money is being wasted on the tools business. It's all the same thing said over and over again and again. Plus these people seem to be very materialistic. Old Dex seems to say that the most materialistic people are poor people. But to me it seems they sure are pretty much materialistic, selling the system they have done in and dont really give a crap about the downline except for the money. thats my perspective
Passport Online is dead! The man that bashed the MLM industry, the man that bashed Amway and Quixtar is going back into the so called MLM world that he left is shutting down Passport and trying to bring Passport Associates into his new personal Oasis Life Sciences downline.
He states that he doesn't care about the money or titles but here he goes again. He is now trying to push a $1200 sign-up for the Oasis business opportunity. Bo Short and Passport, What a joke!
Quixtar is an extension or continuation of Amway. Don't spin your wheels with this dream buster! These people shop in Sam's Club and Kostco while making you believe they are buying from their own business. Phony Foley and Hannibal Hays will eat you alive!
I sincerely respect Bo Short and his actions. I would be glad to stand by this businessman any day. He is a man of honesty, character and integrity. he is Unlike ALL of my upline that lead up to Ron Rummel. I felt betrayed by the teachings of rummel and all of his downline that bled his lies and dishonesty. rummel must live with himself and his dishonest, corrupt "stories". everything was slided in the near decade of being fed the crap this bastard regurgitated. rummel the scheister owes me thousands-i guess it was an expensive lesson. he will get vengeance, only not from me. "vengeance is mine saith..." also, i am not a member of passport. dave
Anyone who "tries" Quixtar won't make it. You have to work. That's what the problem is...nobody wants to work, they just want to complain about what won't work for them. I'm so impressed with name calling and blaming. Get over it.
I save myself some typing time :) Do your research first on BOTH sides, then comment. Here's what the business world says about Quixtar:
http://www.thisbiznow.com
I hope there are some worthwhile comments from people that took the time to research instead of being led by the emotion of the "crowd."
What a group of pathetic losers you MLM people are. I met Bo Short, Robert Fish and several other Oasis, Amway and Quixtar associates who tried desperately to "get me on board" or as I like to say "steal my moneyâ€. Why don't you guys get a real job (or start a business of your own) and get out of the pyramid scheme business? Stop alienating your friends and family by trying to "get them on board". But wait, that would be common sense. Control of my own destiny or give my hard earned money to people who gladly take it to enrich themselves and could not care less about me or you. Show me one person, other than the book and snake oil salesmen at the top who have made any real money at any of these schemes.
These people sell you a load of crap, call it a dream and expect you to believe it, which many of you do. If you put half as much time, money and energy into a legitimate business, then you all would be successful. Amway, Quixtar, Oasis= the same rip-off with a different name and the same people at the top.
I have made a lot of money in the Quixtar biz. I am retired from a high paying job because we reached the platinum/ruby level. Over 3.5 years, we have made about $200,000 not including tax savings. That is our take home people. We have no inventory - all internet ordering. We work it part time and make a very small amount of money on tools - this tool discussion is so ridiculous. It costs money to run a biz and people should be compensated for their contributions to helping and motivating others not in their line of sponsorship. We make the VAST majority of our money from products as does our upline Emerald and Diamond. We make squat on the tool system. We genuinely help other people make money and develop personally. I love this business and I would never shop at Costco or Sams - that would be very stupid. I sleep in every day and am so glad to be out of my corporate job. I have a great upline and we are in this biz for life. Do you realize how many people don't make it in jobs? It is so much more than the numbers in the Quixtar biz. 98% of people retire broke people - wake up! If you work your business, it works. I'm proof. Keep believing in your dreams and quit focusing on negative people and things. You become what you believe - so believe for good things!
Keep on believin'. I will have you know that I made 3.5 mil in net profits from a "LEGITIMATE" business that I started 6 years ago with $3k. I have done it offering a legitimate service that people really need. I didn't depend on uplines, downlines and shady dealing with questionable people like Amway Al. I used just good, old fashion hard work, INTEGRITY and ingenuity. I left the corporate world to build a real business not steal money from people like 99.9% of your kind do. I have heard many people claim to make thousands per year off of these pyramid schemes yet not on person has produced one shred of evidence to back up their claims. I personally don't believe a word any of you MLM types say. Oh yeah, and I assume that you are a "Christian" too? That is a line they always use, "God has blessed me and he can bless you to, if you just give me $1200". What a pitiful group you are.
I have been in the business for about 15 years. Hit Emerald when all the crap was going down with Bill Childers leaving his wife for a young gold digger woman out of Florida, she left him in about a year and sued his but for several million. Kenny who preached about every man getting their wife home from work so that a wife would not be subject to another mans dominion , was screwing his secretaries , and finally married a bleached blonde. The business turned into a regular " do as I say not as I do" business, the corrupt leaders who used religion to control their followers were brought down. The obnoxious, glutonious , so called Diamonds who had forced all their down line to load up their garages with product are all in bankruptcy or in jail. Dexter Yager still is running around parinoid of gays, lesbians, democrats and Hilliary Clinton. I think he is struggling with his own distorted desires and causing his behavior to be questionable. All thorugh this I still get a nice bonus check , is will not make me rich but I have been investing every penny and I think I have broken even. I have been able to establish a good career for myself and made out well in realestate investments. As far as all the other so called Diamond experts,, always remember no on is better than yourself and question everything and always use common sense and if your gut feeling tells you different follow your gut instinct. I remember Dexter talking from the stag on how the people is the business were so special and stuck through thick and thin.. I can tell you that was all bullshit and when the chips were falling in Dexters business he was dispatching legal teams with the help of Amway to distroy everyone who was trying to pull away from his business. Now you know why Rome , NY is known to be a stompting ground for the Maphia...
Well, there are very few people commenting here with any intelligence. I do appreciate the ones that do. I am not in any MLM. I just like reading new information. The first real point I see here is the tools are optional, so why complain about buying them. The second point is, it looks like Bo got together with some other people who had money and decided they can start their own Amway business or whatever that they can be thee top. I am not knocking them for this, hey business is business. If you have millions, as people say they did. What else could you dream for? Status. Well if you’re in someone else’s business you can never be #1. Bo made a status call. Now I don’t know to much about this MLM business, but I know some people make a lot of money in it, and others make nothing. I also know that a lot of actors never make any money either and very few make it “BIGâ€. And to answer some stupid bloggers here about going to get a job, if he was paying attention, these people have jobs, or own companies. So I can understand why is promoting being broke, cause he is an idiot. Normally I wont write to Blogs and I really don’t care. I just hate stupidity. You all have a nice day.
Hi to all guys!
First to introduce my self! My name is Haris, from Greece. I am 23 years old, I am handicapped (I am on a wheelchair), my dad is gardener and my mom has to stay home and take care of me...
I wanna tell you guys that I 'd like to receive your opinions, after reading my story, that's why I put my mail on form... Sorry for my bad english and my long story... I also wanna tell u that I 'm not put my comment to fight with you guys, but in a friendly way to tell me your opinion about what i 'll write... I 'll definitely not want to be ironic or sarcastic.
I saw the plan when I was 19 years old for a good friend of my. It was the only chance that I ever had on this life... Can u tell me what else I was able to do?
I grab this opportunity thank God and I did it! I enjoy the financial independency! From the point of a handicapped little child i got to the point of a businessman. And all this because of the system you 're saying all that bad words...Can u tell me how else u can make people afraid to talk to their neighbour, to make the network and make money? I had people in my network whose don't want to be on the seminars, audios and books system and i didn't registered them at all! I don't want them to create a rumour around my name and the business, because of their lack to get any money...!
I know, it's difficult to do it, especially at the beggining, because that time u want to register all the world no matter what! But thank God I did it and nobody can say anything about me!
Because of this system I improved my self-image and I'd not afraid to speak about my feelings to a great woman and we are together now 3,5 years and going to get married! Can u tell me anything else that could give me that in this world? Now, when i 'll go to her house and ask her by her parents to marry me, and i 'll making the triple amount of money of her all family, what they would answer? No? They'll argue about my disability? I don't think so! This is priceless! With anything else i won't had it!
With this system we're happy, we know our selves and the others and we are not bad people! Do u prefer that, or divorces, beating women, drugs and self-pitness?
Before Amway i didn't get out of home. I am fan of a lot great stuff, like theatre, music and sports and nobody got me with him at any of those stuff! I sick of hearing empty promises and pittyness by them... But when I develop my network, my people are glad to take me anywhere, full of joy! I helped them to earn money and rule their lives also! I am their mentor.
Until 2002 nobody gave me an opportunity at life... My sponsor and my upline only did. I owe them everything! They love me and believed at me on the bad times and now at the good times! NOBODY ELSE!
Finally the scam thing... U told that Quixtar and Amway is scam, right? By my point of view, do u know what i believe is scam? Scam is when my dad cannot lift me because of hand tiredness, scam is when a friend of me makes HP rich and conquers a target of 1,5 million and give him at return 300 euros, when his girlfriend she's hairdresser and her hands have skin wounds by the head washing and the boss steals by her the tips... THAT'S SCAM FOR ME! DO U WANT OTHER EXAMPLES? I have plenty of them!
With Amway i rule my future, I don't expect with the 500 Euro/month to live!
I will expect your replys with anticipation and hope to a beautiful conversation!
Haris from Greece.
how can I put a mail to receive answers?
I find it interesting that there is an enormous gap between 2002 and 2005 on the timeline. Didn't Bo start another business that failed during that time? Why isn't that mentioned here?
I watched the dateline and even read something that compared quixtar to the italian mafia, very interesting but very stretched, and I still got in. I am not on standing order or any other recurring charge bs and I only go to the functions to allow my new people to see how big and established quixtar is. Why don't you idiotic failures in the business just practically explain the benefits of the business, so you can erase the tools, and teach other people to get extra money from teaching other people to shop online and get a lot of the things they would have bought anyway. YOU FAILURES WHO MAKE BLOGS INSTEAD OF USE YOUR TIME TO DEVISE A PLAN TO MAKE THE POTENTIAL OF THE BIZ WORK FOR YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT FROM ME, im 19 and killing this business with no F***ing extra monthly charges from tools or unnecessary functions. Step your game up dumbA$$e$
Bo and Sandy Short were my Diamonds when I was in Amway and Quixtar. Bo's Mother, Elaine as my Direct. I would not say enough about how much help they offered me. Elaine and Bo came to my house numerouse times to do meetings for me. Bo and Elaine lived in different directions from me but they were there for me. Elaine passed away a few years ago and her family and friends miss her so much.
I can not say enough about Bo Short though about how he tried to help me be successfull. I can no one to blame my myself for not making the money that they say you can. It is not easy and takes alot. Things did not work out for me because I did not grab enough for what was out there for me to take. Sure there are alot of pitfulls and bad things out there. I can not blame Bo anythign bad. I am not doing anymore MLMs any more for alot of reasons. None are because Bo failed to help me. I went with this Passport and made some money but never moved on. It was a great system he had. He even called me at home to see how I was. There never was a mentioned of how come I was not buying alot of product. He was talking to me as a person. I was not making him money but he did not seem to care about that. He really cared about the people he was working with and cared about them.
Sorry to ramble on.. but came across this and a lot of memories came back! You may have different feelings or memories.. But I am telling this story first hand about my dealings with Bo. I would not just let the Bo bashing go one without saying something.
I read every posting on Bo Short, and it was worth it just to hear from the lady that was in Amway with Bo, never made any money, but found Bo to be a man of integrity who thought of her as another human being. That was exactly my experience, so I guess I was honored to know Bo for what he is-- the Greatest Salesman in the World.
Wow, so much time wasted on nonsense. Do you people know what perserverence is? With it you can make almost anything work, try it. Perhaps the world could be changed if you would spend this time doing that instead of constant criticism. What can ya say?
John Hudson, wish we were all as lucky as you. I guess everyone who starts a business with 3k will have 3.5 million in 3 years? Perhaps you could share with us your phenomenal success secrets as obviously many (over 80%) new business owners must not know, that's how many fail. Or you can just spew out ridiculous accusations like im sure your business built itself. I have built several successful businesses. I've never been able to build a traditional business for anything less than 50 or 60 large. What kind of business you call "legit" did you build for 3k? I'm very intrigued. Kinda don't really believe you, if you know what I mean. My corporate paperwork on the last one cost me 11 grand.....hmmmmmm.
bo short is a reasonable and good man! i was one of his down line i left amway/quixtar's because my upline were abanuce of losers! they could not or would not standup and repersent! now i think i will look up passport and sign up !mlm's work and if you have the right people to lead you and believe you can make it! believe!! god bless bo&sandy short!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well , quixway has just terminated 17 high level IBO's. At the heart of the matter as best as I can tell from what Ive read so -far, is that quixway didnt like the fact that TEAM(Woodward and Brady)were running a book/cd/tools/functions business that put all the emphasis on the "system " and didnt properly "position the corporation, hmmmm that sounds just like world wide dream stealers and what they teach.Just curious to know if Alticor has the guts and business sense to Terminate Puryear,Duncans and the rest of their pathetic underlings as well. This is going to be fun to watch....better go make some popcorn!
I've read a post that refers to the good ole boy network. I agree to that and it sounds like to me from reading the timeline that Quixtar has a former truck driver (Yager) committed to keeping his "followers" dedicated to the system and to purchasing Quixtar products. I don't know. Is Quixtar, Alticor, Amway afraid of change? I couldn't stand hearing "Bitter Birdie" speak (Yager's wife). She sounded bitter one time on stage when talking about raising the kids while Dex was off building the scam, I mean the business. Does Yager really have that much power that if he were confronted that Quixtar is afraid of what they would lose?
I was in a work situation where I saw the good ole boy network at work. This man at work was a real a$$hole, but he had so much money invested in projects that would bring the company money that letting him go didn't seem a good choice, but I guess there a$$holes wherever you go.
Anyway, I really did not like Yager, I did not respect him for keeping us up til 1 am or later waiting for hime to arrive at major functions to hear his "words of wisdom" after he talked negative about gays, hiring prostitutes to test his upline pins integrity, etc.
I say a lot when I respond, so many thoughts from my experience with Quixhell promoters. I am appalled that with so many complaints that Quixtar did not do something about the tape issues. I believe they need to take responsibility and have professional people from their company train people to build the business and make it so that they don't need tape hype and lying promoters to keep people in. With what they charge for products and charging tax on retail to people who buy products at wholesale, they should have enough money to do things right.
That's just my opinion.
Posted by: Lisa | January 28, 2004 9:56 AM