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December 29, 2003

Scott's rebuttal to 'The Facts About Quixtar'

By QBlog in

I've "restructured" Scott Larsen's excellent rebuttal to "The Facts About Quixtar" in an effort to improve the Web presentation of the content. Here is the end result:

Rebuttal to "The Facts About Quixtar".

Comments welcomed.

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"No "headhunting fee." An IBO is never compensated for merely sponsoring another IBO.

Scott's Rebuttal:
This is misleading. If there are no retail sales to customers outside the pyramid, then the only way an IBO can make a profit is by recruiting more downline IBOs. While there is no up front headhunter fee, the absence of a meaningfully enforced retail sales rule results in payments based primarily on recruiting new members to buy goods for their own consumption. In practice, this is nothing more than a carefully disguised headhunting fee unless the focus is on selling the products"

Well, gee golly damn. If we went by this logic, then EVERY business has a headhunting fee. Don't believe me? If I'm the manager of a McDonalds and I run the store, I can't possibly run it all by my lonesome. It can't be done. I'll lose business because I'd be defeating the purpose of the 'Fast Food' industry. So I must hire (or "recruit") other individuals to help me out. Then they run their own assigned positions and everything is great. If I didn't have them, I wouldn't make any sales. But because I have them, I make sales. And because I make sales, I get a paycheck. BAM! There's my "Headhunter fee."

Of course, that's what I get for following Scott and pulling problems out of my rear.

Key word here, Scott: "Merely." You may have missed it in your break dance.

Not even close, Dwighty. "Hiring" employees and paying them a salary or wage and "recruiting" IBOs to buy from themselves are totally different. In the former, the employees are paid for their time and the money comes in to pay those wages as a result of selling products to hungry McDonalds customers - not the employees. In system Quixtar, the IBOs PAY to be salespeople rather than get paid. Just like a headhunting fee, the money comes from the recruits - not actual sales like in a McDonalds. It just comes in gradually as the IBOs "buy from themselves" rather than up front. It still has all the characteristics of a headhunting fee.

When there is no primary focus on retail sales, the only way money comes into the business is to recruit more people to "change their buying habits" and convince them they can spend their way to riches.

No it doesn't Dawg. The money that goes to the subscription does not go to the upline, therefore it CAN'T-by definition-be a Headhunter fee. If it did, I'd have some cash from that because I have a rather healthy downline. The money comes from sales, and depending on where you are in level, you may actually be losing bonus cash because of your downline's sales.

There has been more times than not that I have gotten less than my downline because they sold more than me in a given month. That's just the way the system works. However, if I sold enough to move myself up to the next level on my own, then the sales of my downline help my bonus, albeit incredibly miniscule.

That is to say, until I get multiple downlines in which case, yes, the sales of those below me will help me greatly, but I'd still need to move SOME products to qualify for a bonus of any kind. But getting antsy about me getting a bonus at that stage is like whining that Bill Gates makes more money than you do.

So no. You're wrong again, just like you were wrong before when the initial thought set in that it was time for you to disagree with Dwighty the Great. Stick with your grammar skills. You're far better suited for a battle there.

I'm not talking about the subscription. Reading comprehension apparently isn't Dwighty the Great's strong suit. I am talking about bonus paid on self-consumption. Read it again DTG. . . and weep.

I read and you're still wrong. You apparantly stopped halfway down my arguement. Kudos for that but it didn't help your image any.

What am I supposedly wrong about?

Getting paid is not the same thing as paying. Re-read your first post DTG.

Claiming victory after you lose a debate . . . now there's a positive image builder.

Now I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

In both situations, I need people working for me to get money. In both situations, the people under me get money based on sales. How the hell am I wrong about THAT?

You're an idiot.

Wow. You leveled me. You are so right, Dwighty the Great.

Like Job, I place my hands over my mouth!





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