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November 14, 2003

MCVR

By QBlog in

While trying to figure out the whole Quixtar Member/Client sales rules I dug through some old upline emails and found this rather confusing explanation. I remember reading it in August, 2002 and just scratching my head. I could kick myself now for not asking questions to try to get this explained in more detail. Reading it now is still somewhat confusing to me and I make NO claims about the accuracy of the statements or how they may or may not apply to Quixtar IBOs. I'm just sharing a typical email communication from our direct upline (who is really a great person and still a friend). My only edits were to add emphasis, correct some grammar and obscure actual names:

Hey team just a reminder to everyone about the Member/Client Reporting.

Remember that if you DO NOT report this you WILL NOT recieve a check from Quixtar. You have to report this EVERY MONTH. You can call it in by calling 1-800-253-6500 and tell them that you need to report EITHER 50PV towards your MCVR OR $100 towards it. This is necessary even if you only have 50PV.

Now it is NOT saying you have to spend 100 more dollars to have an EXTRA 50PV its saying that OF the 50-100PV you assumingly get each month and of the money it took you to get that PV which ever way you choose to report its saying that you are putting that towards a Member or Client purchase. NOW in the beginning we dont all have Members and clients right? Well yeah, you sorta do. You are giving away product every month to people and your children and family members are using your product too. THEY ALL COUNT AS MEMBERS AND CLIENTS.

Example: You all know that my spouse and I give away a lot of coffee and popcorn etc. Well, we also give our kids the juice boxes, snacks etc. that we buy, so around 50PV worth of our order is given away to people that are not IBOs or not building the business even if they are IBOs.

So, report that - you figure the coffee is 25 of that PV and our youngest child uses the diapers and babywash and wipes etc. so those things alone make up our MCVR. It's confusing and you could get all wrapped up in the legal reasons, but the bottom line is we had an attorney read it over and it's absolutely legit to do this. SO AGAIN YOU HAVE TO REPORT EVERY SINGLE MONTH.

If you have recieved a check in the past without reporting, Thank your upline 'cause that means that they did it for you. But we all need to know how to do this and we all need to teach our people how. If you want to do this online and you have at least 50PV go to www.quixtar.com then go to office in the slim blue menu bar at the top, put your arrow on PV/BV and click on Member Client Volume Reporting or MCVR. Go in and put a one next to Member/Client orders then either put a 50 next to PV OR put $100.00 in the one asking dollar amount spent. Or you can call customer service.

There is yet one more way to do this. You can do your ditto for 50PV if you are currently doing it for 100PV and then go to your cart and add in the other 50PV and when you get to the second screen in the ordering process report that you are buying for a customer or client at IBO cost.

Yeah I know it's two seperate orders but a relatively small price to pay in the long run right? If you don't have a ditto set up yet then order the way you normally do online (using your Shopping Cart) and just like I said do two seperate orders. If you order by phone, complete your order, then tell they Operator to please report $100.00 of that order OR 50PV of that order to your MCVR. If you dont want to go through the hassle of two orders then order however you normally do and call in your MCVR or go online and do it yourself as I mentioned before.

Any questions let us know. Its not complicated really once you get the hang of it and it's something that you HAVE TO DO in order to get a check! So get those reports in so we can all get a check OTHERWISE your check goes to our Upline Platinum!!!

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That leaves me speechless. There's so much to say, but all I can do is shake my head.

It's "absolutely legit" to lie to Quixtar that you are selling products to comply with the rules when you aren't?

Q: I know this person is a friend, but do you really believe (s)he talked to a lawyer about this?

Yes, I believe (s)he did talk to a lawyer about this. I think it was an IBO lawyer if I'm not mistaken. Or, a lawyer who was also an IBO. However you say that. One in our upline no less.

That is disgusting on a lot of levels. First of all, this "lawyer" is breaking the ethics by giving legal advice where he has a personal business interest that is potentially (read "actually") in conflict with his client's interests.

Second, even if a lawyer condones it, how could anyone think it's okay to lie?

Third, your upline direct is promoting an illegal pyramid scheme - on top of encouraging people to lie to Quixtar.

If, by upline direct, you mean the person who wrote the pasted email then I should point out that (s)he was only repeating exactly what (s)he was told to say. Also, I assure you that (s)he fully believed those comments to be true at the time but later realized the errors and made appropriate ammends for passing along the information.

I'm not trying to indict or defend the person who directly sponsored my wife (and me I guess) but just share an email that was typical of the information we received. That upline is no longer in Quixtar and is highly critical of many aspects of the business.

I can't thank you enough for sharing that email. The rules are very confusing. I don't see any problem with reporting Member/Client Volume on samples, at the least. But reporting products used by your family members is definitely on the edge. Thanks Again





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