« The Trouble With Quixtar: 4 | Main | What's Cooking? »
September 23, 2003
Why I don't hate Quixtar
By QBlog in
When we (my wife actually) were active in Quixtar I repeatedly heard a phrase that basically "summarized" the business. I'm paraphrasing but it went something like this:
This business is simple, just take the money you were spending at Wal-Mart and spend it at Quixtar instead. It's simply about teaching people to shop differently.This idea was repeated like a mantra. It was gospel. Yet there was something about that statement I just didn't like.
I won't elaborate on that but I will contrast it to the original business of Quixtar (formerly Amway in North America) back in the early days. From my understanding, the business was initially about selling products. The distributors would get a shipment of products and then go around to friends, family and strangers to sell those products. Based on the quality of the products customers would re-order and generate a steady revenue stream. The distributor was responsible for delivering the products to the customer's front door. That was the business. Each product sold equalled a small profit for the distributor. As volume increased, so did profits.
The second aspect of the business was sponsoring new distributors. This sponsoring meant a bonus based on the new distributor's sales but it also required training on how to sell the products as well as motivation and guidance on running the business efficiently. Again, the emphasis was on selling quality products to customers, not self-consumption.
In my mind it's much like a salesman just starting out in a region. As he succeeds, his client list grows beyond his ability to manage personally so he seeks to distribute the workload by recruiting new salesmen. That's an over-simplification but it makes some sense. What doesn't make sense is the self-consumption path to success that was being proselytized by the QBiz team.
I don't know why but the contrast hit me with unusual clarity tonight. Quixtar/Amway didn't start out as a business focused on recruiting, it really began as a business to sell products using some new methods. However, from what I've observed, it's no longer about the products but primarily about recruiting.
Comments
I'v been in the business for about a year and am now seeing some very good changes in it. I had a hard time starting off and though it was the wrong business, but now over some hard time it has paid off. My self image has increased and my friend have notieced that I am more polite and calmer. My products are now FREE
It's funny that I'm even on this site. I guess I just wanted to see why some people don't last in this awesome business. I hear talk about products and I hear talk about sponsoring. I think the main problem is that most people evaluate business opportunities incorrectly. They first examine the products, then the profitability or financial statement, then look at the management or team running the business. This is not how the pros do it. The pros spend about 85-90% of their time researching the management team, about 10% on profititability or financial statements, and only about 2 - 5% on the products sold. Products don't sell products, people sell products! And while money, and tangible things are nice . . .the business is actually about something way more important than that . . . All of the people in your upline may not be the perfect role models for this business. That's like saying everyone in the church is honest. My suggestion to you all who are feeling neglected is to seek out your nearest GROWING upline and learn some of the things that they know. One other factor related to growth and success in this business is your order of priorities. It's God, family, business. In my humble opinion, if this is not your order of priorities, I don't think you can ever be truly successful in the Quixtar business. You either have a blessed business or you don't!
I have read all posted here as of February 14, 2006. I and my wife are an IBO within World Wide Group (aka World Wide Dream Builders).
The primary focus of our organization is product. You must lead by example and that means getting rid of brand X and only buying from your own store. Then help others to shop from your store. Finally, help others, including any customers, to shop from their own store.
It sounds like our own group is the best out there.
Carol, if you want to be win a group of business owners who are successful and have integrity, contact us at:
Three_Strands@katewwdb.com
We would be honored to help you grow an ethical business!
And no, we are not and have never been part of Amway.
If you would like to join quixtar, I have the best leadership in the business. I under the Britt World Wide team.
Carol, if you are interested in finding another team leader, come join our organization. We are very helpful and really care about our downlines.
Email me at bobbyabraham220@hotmail.com
I don't care what everybody is saying,
this is awesome but tough business. If you are not cut to accept challenges, this business is not for you. Otherwise join our winning team by becoming an IBO.
http://araza.qhealthzone.com/
Quixtar is retarded and you will all be broke in less than a year. Dont be a sucker, get out of Quixtar as fast as you can.
let me quote someone here "Quixtar is retarded and you will all be broke in less than a year. Dont be a sucker, get out of Quixtar as fast as you can." The only people that say things like this are people without dreams. People who have no knowledge of the products people or the marketing plan. Quixtar gives people an awesome chance to make money. People who are open minded and willing to step out of "the box" that their guidance counselor put them in before leaving highschool will make it successfull. Being a buisness owner means taking account for your actions and not blaming the buisness or others for failure. Everyone has the power to succeed its just a matter of those that want to succeed.
I only can agree with Curtis, The ONLY problem with this wonderful business is that it IS OPEN to everyone. Unfortunately not everyone is cut for business (any kind!!!) it takes dedication, trust (in God and in yourself) and a lots of well invested time. there is loser everywhere and the responsibility lies with them and no one else. This company offers marvelous products and yes you need a downline but you also need a strong PV/BV pathway without forgetting a close link with your upline. Be a leader...build other leader.
I actually agree with Stephen who posted on December 29, 2005 6:00 PM except I was in Quixtar and failed miserably. Yeah, we all have horror stories, but the point is what did you learn. I leared the importance of God, Family, Business. My LTD upline promoted all business by saying and I quote, "The business effects every area of your life...in essence, you need to be building the business 24/7 to ensure that you are doing everything in your power to control the things that are within your control...The business is the center of the Christian life..." Needless to say, I effectively closed my Quixtar business January 2006 and have since been very successful owning a "traditional" business. I appreciate the experience that I have had with Quixtar, and I will never forget what I have learned. You need to think for yourself, keep your priorities straight, and listen to your gut.
Oh, by the way, I am blessed to have 7 passionate, talented, diligent, skilled, and intelligent employees that work very hard for themselves...and yes, I have time and money. Thank God for Capitalism.
It take commitment and guts to succeed guys. Let me ask you this "As a kid did u search on google before being born in America?" please help urself type HATE AMERICA once on google and read blogs on that and run from the country as fast as you can. People talk about going broke from quixtar..... can u go broke by investing 200-300$ in business..... dude if you can as suggested then look at your financial status..... you are already broke. I myself studied various business models and have keen interest in pursuing one here are some figures from around us Cost of setting up a gas station
$150k to $250k. Cost of McDonalds shop at good location $1m. and many more if u dig deeper..... what they say... get a good education and good job and by the time you are old i mena really old enough you might MIGHT become a CEO.... but how many have achieved suca dream,....... are there any statics on no of grads form school and no of CEO's out there having a salary of $250k a year...... is there an opportunity of model that goes even close to claiming making huge income in part time..... Think guys.... use the top floor of your body for whats its meant for..... Having studied the facts i find it the most ligitimate opportunity out there. Its the only opportunity that says u can make as much as you want to.... only question is how hard you are ready to work..... is there any job opportunity in the whole world that states that....???? search for it and u will find there there is no proven model for that..... but the bottom line is do you have guts to overcome your fear and make it your strength.... can you follow success principles penned bown by napolean hill, frank bettger and the likes of them..... its for you to decide...... hope you make a good decision....
Before starting a business, you must look at the facts and evidences. Quixtar is a good business opportunity. The company has pay out more than $2.2 billion dollars to people who support them. Well, somebody must have that money. And, that money goes to the IBO (Independent Business owner).
There's many companies that are partners with Quixtar such as Microsoft, IBM, Intel, Compaq, Fry Multimedia, Barnes and Nobles, Bass Pro Shop, Office Depot, Circuit City, etc.... We just can't ignores the facts and evidences. This is a good business opportunity.
Kenji Lee
I agree. I am an IBO in Quixtar and previously with Amway. I watched and partipated with the birth of the new "Amway via the Internet." It was amazing to watch the transformation.
We were taught originally our PV/BV (profit value/bonus value) came from not only our own buying power but of those we helped switch over to the Amway products that were in our own organization. That did build the stability because in using the Amway products we always wanted to continue to use them. They were and still are wonderful products to use. However, not on a single product is there any mention of "Amway" any longer. I believe they wanted to divorce themselves from the original Corp and the way they did business. So, yes, you are right, it's now all about sponsorship and no longer on the products.
However, the organization I was in, "Team IN FOCUS" (not to be confused with Team of Destiny) tried to move in another direction other than the one that AltaCorp (once known as The Amway Corp) felt secure with. As a result, all my previous upline "resigned" or rather were asked to "resign". Now I am left feeling hung out to dry so to speak and was "stuck" with another leg, someone I do not even know. Sadly I have never even been contacted by my new upline other than a computer generated form letter welcoming me to his organization. That was well over a year ago, and I have never recieved anything more from him.
So, I am looking at perhaps asking The Corp to allow me to move my organization to another one, who happens to be in TOD. This is why I found this place, as I was doing some reseach into Orrin Woodward.
But what confuses me is in this organization, no emphasis is put on switching over to use the products. I'm only hearing about "sponsoring". Well what good is the sponsoring, if no one uses the products and generates the PV/BV so your bonus check increases every time a person is signed up? If anything this is the reasons why a person does not stay plugged in. The products were and still are a major contributor of any business plan. Or am I wrong with that thinking here?
I love reading all these posts, so keep them coming. I'd love to hear from someone previously with Team In Focus with John and Susan Haagan
Posted by: Carol | December 7, 2003 10:15 PM